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<\/a>Z\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed \u201eod\u00eddencom\u201c na Slovensku? \u010co ich l\u00e1ka zosta\u0165 v\u00a0zahrani\u010d\u00ed a\u00a0ak\u00e9 d\u00f4vody ich volaj\u00fa \u201edomov\u201c?<\/strong><\/p>\nMysl\u00edm, \u017ee pr\u00e1ve pracovn\u00e9 uplatnenie je naj\u010dastej\u0161\u00edm d\u00f4vodom ich odchodov. A naj\u010dastej\u0161\u00edm d\u00f4vodom n\u00e1vratov domov je napr\u00edklad rodina, teda korene. Ke\u010f sa nad t\u00fdm zamysl\u00edme, tak niekde ako spolo\u010dnos\u0165 zlyh\u00e1vame, preto\u017ee d\u00f4vodom ich odchodu je pr\u00e1ve spolo\u010densk\u00e9 nastavenie. Tak\u017ee je aj v na\u0161ich ruk\u00e1ch, aby sme s t\u00fdm dok\u00e1zali nie\u010do spravi\u0165. Mo\u017eno by pomohlo, aby si \u013eudia na Slovensku trochu viac v\u00e1\u017eili odbornos\u0165 a niektor\u00ed politici by sa mohli zamyslie\u0165 nad t\u00fdm, \u017ee pokia\u013e id\u00fa po prim\u00e1rnych pudoch \u013eud\u00ed, v nejakom smere sa im to vr\u00e1ti, a teda vr\u00e1ti sa n\u00e1m to v\u0161etk\u00fdm.<\/p>\n
\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\nOcitli ste sa niekedy v\u00a0nebezpe\u010denstve?<\/strong><\/p>\nStane sa, \u017ee \u010dlovek sa nedopatren\u00edm dostane do nebezpe\u010dnej situ\u00e1cie, no nebolo ich mnoho. Agres\u00edvnej\u0161ie spr\u00e1vanie \u013eud\u00ed sme za\u017eili nieko\u013ekokr\u00e1t, preva\u017ene na africkom kontinente, pr\u00edpadne na Jamajke, \u010do je tak\u00e1 mal\u00e1 Afrika, ale na\u0161\u0165astie v\u017edy to dobre dopadlo. Sk\u00f4r s\u00fa pod\u013ea m\u0148a zauj\u00edmav\u00e9 tak\u00e9 momenty, ktor\u00e9 s\u00fa nebezpe\u010dn\u00e9, no \u010dlovek si ich uvedom\u00ed a\u017e nesk\u00f4r. Spom\u00ednam si, ako som vo Vietname nat\u00e1\u010dal kobru, ktor\u00fa sme sa chystali zjes\u0165 a v\u00f4bec som si neuvedomil, \u017ee som od nej asi 50 cm. Kameraman mi potom vravel, \u017ee \u010dlovek, ktor\u00fd sa n\u00e1m chystal t\u00fa kobru pripravi\u0165, mal pomerne vystra\u0161en\u00fd v\u00fdraz, ke\u010f videl, ako bl\u00edzko som pri tomto smrte\u013ene jedovatom hadovi. Alebo v africkej Nam\u00edbii – ke\u010f sme sa v noci vracali z\u00a0nat\u00e1\u010dania, mali sme po\u017ei\u010dan\u00e9 malink\u00e9 aut\u00ed\u010dko, ktor\u00e9 ledva svietilo. Popri ceste sme videli iba svietiace o\u010di, ktor\u00e9 sa pred nami uh\u00fdbali a poviem v\u00e1m, \u017ee mi nebolo v\u0161etko jedno. Predstava zr\u00e1\u017eky tohto malink\u00e9ho aut\u00ed\u010dka, len o nie\u010do v\u00e4\u010d\u0161ieho ako mal Mr. Bean, s\u00a0nosoro\u017ecom, nie je zrovna pr\u00edjemn\u00e1.<\/p>\n
\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\nPomysleli ste si niekedy – tak tu by som chcel zosta\u0165? <\/strong><\/p>\nSamozrejme, viackr\u00e1t som mal pocit, \u017ee som si na\u0161iel druh\u00fd domov, \u017ee sem sa chcem vr\u00e1ti\u0165 a tu zostarn\u00fa\u0165 a pravdepodobne jedn\u00e9ho d\u0148a to tak aj bude. Spom\u00ednam si na kr\u00e1sny thajsk\u00fd ostrov Koh Ra, kde sme b\u00fdvali v stanoch a\u00a0jedin\u00e9, \u010do sme r\u00e1no po\u010duli, bol \u0161um mora. \u017di\u0165 na takomto mieste znamen\u00e1, \u017ee \u010dlovek nem\u00e1 \u017eiadne amb\u00edcie a chce si len u\u017e\u00edva\u0165 ten okamih. T\u00fdch miest bolo viac, ve\u013emi na m\u0148a zap\u00f4sobil star\u00fd kamenn\u00fd dom v\u00a0Tosk\u00e1nsku s\u00a0v\u00fdh\u013eadom na olivov\u00e9 sady. No potom nast\u00fapi ten hnac\u00ed motor a\u00a0ot\u00e1zka, \u010do ak? A to ma don\u00fati v\u017edy \u00eds\u0165 \u010falej, h\u013eada\u0165 povedzme nie\u010do kraj\u0161ie alebo nie\u010do pokojnej\u0161ie.<\/p>\n
\u010co zvl\u00e1\u0161tne ste na cest\u00e1ch ochutnali? <\/strong><\/p>\nTarantulu, mysl\u00edm, \u017ee to bolo v Kambod\u017ei a\u00a0v\u0161etci sme boli prekvapen\u00ed, \u017ee po vypra\u017een\u00ed ten obrovsk\u00fd pav\u00fak chutil ako pa\u0161t\u00e9ta. Ve\u013emi zvl\u00e1\u0161tna bola chobotnica, ktor\u00fa sme jedli na trhovisku v centre Soulu a\u00a0ktor\u00e1 sa jedla \u017eiv\u00e1. Miestni na to maj\u00fa \u0161peci\u00e1lnu techniku a\u00a0dok\u00e1\u017eu ju zjes\u0165 v podstate vcelku. Pani, ktor\u00e1 n\u00e1m ju pripravila, n\u00e1m navrhla, \u017ee n\u00e1m ju rad\u0161ej nakr\u00e1ja. No ch\u00e1padl\u00e1 sa aj tak st\u00e1le h\u00fdbali a prichyt\u00e1vali na jazyk a na podnebie, tak\u017ee som celkom v\u010fa\u010dn\u00fd, \u017ee sme ju nemuseli jes\u0165 v\u00a0celku. Mohlo to dopadn\u00fa\u0165 v\u0161elijako.<\/p>\n
\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\nKtor\u00e9 jedlo je pova\u017eovan\u00e9 za najlep\u0161ie na svete?<\/strong><\/p>\nIst\u00ed odborn\u00edci zostavili rebr\u00ed\u010dek najlep\u0161\u00edch jed\u00e1l a\u00a0mysl\u00edm, \u017ee to vyhral indon\u00e9zsky rendang – druh kar\u00ed, poch\u00e1dzaj\u00faceho z ostrova Sumatra. Je v\u00fdborn\u00fd, no hne\u010f mi napadne \u010fal\u0161\u00edch desa\u0165 jed\u00e1l, ktor\u00e9, ak by som ich u\u017e nikdy nemal jes\u0165, bol by som ve\u013emi smutn\u00fd. Patr\u00ed k\u00a0nim thajsk\u00e9 kari \u010di dobr\u00e1 pizza s v\u00fdh\u013eadom na Koloseum. Niektor\u00e9 miesta sa mi vyslovene sp\u00e1jaj\u00fa s ur\u010dit\u00fdmi druhmi jedla. Napr\u00edklad, ke\u010f sa povie Dominik\u00e1nska republika, je to lechon – ich grilovan\u00e9 prasiatko. Na gastron\u00f3mii a jej spozn\u00e1van\u00ed ma najviac fascinuje ten v\u00fdber. P\u00e1\u010di sa mi predstava, \u017ee jeden t\u00fd\u017ede\u0148 si d\u00e1vam nie\u010do talianske, \u010fal\u0161\u00ed nie\u010do thajsk\u00e9 a na tret\u00ed t\u00fd\u017ede\u0148 nie\u010do z Maroka. Samozrejme, v kombin\u00e1cii s\u00a0n\u00e1v\u0161tevou kraj\u00edn, odkia\u013e tieto jedl\u00e1 poch\u00e1dzaj\u00fa.<\/p>\n
\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\nNa\u0161li sa aj sc\u00e9ny \u010di jedl\u00e1, ktor\u00e9 v\u00e1s alebo div\u00e1kov \u0161okovali? <\/strong><\/p>\nDiv\u00e1kov v\u00e4\u010d\u0161inou \u0161okuj\u00fa tak\u00e9 jedl\u00e1, ktor\u00e9 v na\u0161ich kon\u010din\u00e1ch pova\u017euj\u00fa za dom\u00e1cich mil\u00e1\u010dikov. Tak\u00e9 boli napr\u00edklad morsk\u00e9 prasiatka, ktor\u00e9 sme jedli v Ekv\u00e1dore a na soci\u00e1lnych sie\u0165ach sa spustili celkom ohniv\u00e9 diskusie o\u00a0tom, \u010di nie\u010do tak\u00e9to ukazova\u0165 – ale ide o s\u00fa\u010das\u0165 miestnej kult\u00fary a\u00a0ja ako dokumentarista ju zaznamen\u00e1vam. M\u0148a asi najviac zasko\u010dila v\u00fdroba rybacej om\u00e1\u010dky (ktor\u00fa m\u00e1m ve\u013emi r\u00e1d) v\u00a0Mjanmarsku. Ryby z ne\u010falek\u00e9ho jazera su\u0161ili na slnku a,\u00a0samozrejme, sadali na ne muchy, ktor\u00e9 tam tie\u017e nakl\u00e1dli vaj\u00ed\u010dka. N\u00e1sledne dali ryby do ve\u013ek\u00fdch n\u00e1dob podobn\u00fdch t\u00fdm, v ktor\u00fdch sa u n\u00e1s naklad\u00e1 kapusta a nechali ich tam fermentova\u0165. Pozreli sme si v\u0161etky \u0161t\u00e1di\u00e1 ferment\u00e1cie r\u00fdb. Pri jednej z\u00a0nich, ke\u010f pani otvorila n\u00e1dobu, za\u010dali sa v\u00a0nej hm\u00fdri\u0165 kostn\u00e9 \u010derv\u00edky. Mus\u00edm prizna\u0165, \u017ee najbli\u017e\u0161ie dva dni som dok\u00e1zal zjes\u0165 len pr\u00ed\u0161erne chutiacu pizzu, ke\u010f\u017ee t\u00fato rybaciu om\u00e1\u010dku d\u00e1vali do v\u0161etk\u00e9ho.<\/p>\n
\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\nOchutnali ste nie\u010do, z\u00a0\u010doho v\u00e1m a\u017e slzy radosti vyh\u0155kli? A\u00a0naopak, bolo nie\u010do, \u010do ste odmietli \u010di o\u013eutovali?<\/strong><\/p>\nF\u00faha, tak\u00fdch jed\u00e1l bolo kopec. Napr\u00edklad na Sr\u00ed Lanke sme jedli kar\u00ed z kraba a bolo to najlep\u0161ie kar\u00ed, ak\u00e9 som dovtedy a\u00a0asi aj odvtedy jedol. Samozrejme, jedl\u00e1 od \u0161pi\u010dkov\u00fdch \u0161\u00e9fkuch\u00e1rov s\u00fa jednoducho navrhnut\u00e9 tak, aby vo v\u00e1s zanechali spomienku na dlh\u00fd \u010das a tak\u00e9 bolo aj jedlo v\u00a0Singapure s\u00a0langustou ako hlavnou ingredienciou. \u0160\u00e9fkuch\u00e1r, ktor\u00fd ho vymyslel, dva roky cestoval po celom svete, aby na\u0161iel dokonal\u00fa langustu, tak\u017ee nielen jedlo samotn\u00e9, ale aj cel\u00fd pr\u00edbeh sa mi vryl do pam\u00e4ti. Naopak, nie\u010do, \u010do mi neurobilo rados\u0165, bola ve\u013eryba – z pochopite\u013en\u00fdch d\u00f4vodov…<\/p>\n
\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\nPripravili ste aj \u0161peci\u00e1l o milovn\u00edkoch jedla. \u010c\u00edm to je, \u017ee niektor\u00e9 krajiny maj\u00fa ku gurm\u00e1nstvu bli\u017e\u0161\u00ed vz\u0165ah? <\/strong><\/p>\nMysl\u00edm, \u017ee niektor\u00e9 n\u00e1rody \u010di n\u00e1rodnosti si dok\u00e1\u017eu jedlo viac u\u017ei\u0165 prim\u00e1rne z ekonomick\u00fdch d\u00f4vodov. Aj tak\u00fd Afri\u010dan si r\u00e1d d\u00e1 talianske cestoviny alebo thajsk\u00e9 kar\u00ed. No v dom\u00e1com prostred\u00ed m\u00e1 jedlo \u00faplne in\u00fa hodnotu, jednoducho, mus\u00ed pre\u017ei\u0165.<\/p>\n
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\u010co si mysl\u00edte o\u00a0konzum\u00e1cii jed\u00e1l, ktor\u00e9 s\u00fa pre \u010dloveka rizikom? Napr\u00edklad ryba, ktor\u00fa, ke\u010f kuch\u00e1r dobre neo\u010dist\u00ed, sp\u00f4sob\u00ed okam\u017eit\u00fa smr\u0165…<\/strong><\/p>\nPredpoklad\u00e1m, \u017ee m\u00e1te na mysli fugu. Pravdepodobne je to ako s\u00a0ktor\u00fdmko\u013evek adrenal\u00ednov\u00fdm \u0161portom – ide o vzru\u0161enie. \u010co sa t\u00fdka ryby fugu a\u00a0podobn\u00fdch jed\u00e1l, ide tu o riziko pre jednotlivca. In\u00e9 je to so surovinami, ktor\u00e9 m\u00f4\u017eu sp\u00f4sobi\u0165 nie\u010do hor\u0161ie, ako sme to v\u0161etci za\u017eili po\u010das pand\u00e9mie. Nie som si \u00faplne ist\u00fd, \u010di ten netopier, \u010do n\u00e1m tu posledn\u00e9 dva roky zastavil svet, naozaj st\u00e1lo za to. Nechcem to nejako odsudzova\u0165, ale s\u00fa na svete veci, ktor\u00e9 by sa jes\u0165 nemali.<\/p>\n
\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\nAko rie\u0161ite etick\u00e9 dilemy \u201ejes\u0165, \u010di nejes\u0165\u201c? <\/strong><\/p>\nSna\u017e\u00edm sa to vn\u00edma\u0165 ako film\u00e1r, nevyn\u00e1\u0161am s\u00fady o nie\u010dom alebo niekom, ke\u010f nie som s\u00fa\u010das\u0165ou onej kult\u00fary. Mojou \u00falohou je prioritne kult\u00farne rozdiely sprostredkova\u0165 div\u00e1kom. Viem, \u017ee zjes\u0165 sa d\u00e1 takmer v\u0161etko. Samozrejme, pokia\u013e by \u0161lo o m\u0148a ako osobu, tak napr\u00edklad ve\u013erybu, delf\u00edna \u010di opicu by som nejedol. V\u00a0r\u00e1mci nat\u00e1\u010dania som raz nedok\u00e1zal ochutna\u0165 jedno jedlo – bol to grilovan\u00fd pes vo Vietname. Na\u0161\u0165astie, u\u017e aj v tejto krajine je t\u00e1to delikatesa na \u00fastupe. Samotn\u00ed predajcovia si uvedomovali, \u017ee my na z\u00e1pade tejto ich lah\u00f4dke nebudeme rozumie\u0165.<\/p>\n
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Cel\u00fd rozhovor si pre\u010d\u00edtate v septembrovom \u010d\u00edsle MIAU (2022)<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" V\u010faka jeho n\u00e1padu u\u017e div\u00e1ci precestovali kus sveta a\u00a0aspo\u0148 na telev\u00edznych obrazovk\u00e1ch ochutnali nielen gurm\u00e1nske nebo a\u00a0kuriozity z\u00a0celej zemegule, ale z\u00e1rove\u0148 spoznali \u0161ikovn\u00fdch Slov\u00e1kov, ktor\u00ed sa uchytili v\u00a0zahrani\u010d\u00ed. Tibor Patay si \u00faspe\u0161n\u00fdm dokument\u00e1rnym seri\u00e1lom Cestou necestou z\u00e1rove\u0148 splnil vlastn\u00fd sen – \u017eivi\u0165 sa cestovan\u00edm. A\u00a0hoci sa pohr\u00e1val s\u00a0my\u0161lienkou na \u017eivot v\u00a0zahrani\u010d\u00ed, zatia\u013e zost\u00e1va doma. […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":10476,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,113],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10475","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-interview","category-september-2022"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10475","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10475"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10475\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10481,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10475\/revisions\/10481"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/10476"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10475"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10475"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10475"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}
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<\/a>\u010co sa stane v\u00a0hlave \u010dloveka, ktor\u00fd precestuje takmer cel\u00fd svet? <\/strong><\/p>\n