{"id":12839,"date":"2024-12-09T14:58:29","date_gmt":"2024-12-09T12:58:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/?p=12839"},"modified":"2024-12-09T14:58:29","modified_gmt":"2024-12-09T12:58:29","slug":"paula-hawkins-hovorili-mi-ze-by-som-svoje-postavy-mala-zjemnit","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/paula-hawkins-hovorili-mi-ze-by-som-svoje-postavy-mala-zjemnit\/","title":{"rendered":"Paula Hawkins &#8211; Hovorili mi, \u017ee by som svoje postavy mala zjemni\u0165"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Rok 2013 nebol pre Paulu Hawkins ve\u013emi dobr\u00fd, nedarilo sa jej v\u00a0osobnom ani v pracovnom \u017eivote a\u00a0uva\u017eovala o\u00a0konci svojej liter\u00e1rnej kari\u00e9ry. Mala v\u0161ak n\u00e1pad na pr\u00edbeh\u00a0o\u00a0alkoholi\u010dke, ktor\u00e1 z vlaku uvid\u00ed nie\u010do, \u010do nem\u00e1. A\u00a0tak zariskovala. Na pol roka si vzala vo\u013eno z pr\u00e1ce, po\u017ei\u010dala si peniaze od otca, aby mala z\u00a0\u010doho plati\u0165 \u00fa\u010dty a\u00a0dala sa do p\u00edsania. V\u00fdsledok: bestseller Diev\u010da vo vlaku, z\u00a0ktor\u00e9ho sa celosvetovo predalo viac ako dvadsa\u0165 mili\u00f3nov v\u00fdtla\u010dkov. Z Pauly Hawkins, ktor\u00e1 takmer zavesila p\u00edsanie na klinec, sa stala jedna z\u00a0naj\u00faspe\u0161nej\u0161\u00edch spisovateliek. Pri pr\u00edle\u017eitosti vydania jej najnov\u0161ieho rom\u00e1nu Modr\u00e1 hodinka (Slovart 2024) sme sa s\u00a0\u0148ou rozpr\u00e1vali o\u00a0jej vz\u0165ahu k\u00a0umeniu, o\u00a0postaven\u00ed \u017eien v spolo\u010dnosti, ale i o\u00a0tom, pre\u010do odmieta nap\u00edsa\u0165 Diev\u010da vo vlaku 2.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Hawkins-IMG_0578-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-12842\" src=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Hawkins-IMG_0578-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Hawkins-IMG_0578-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Hawkins-IMG_0578-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Hawkins-IMG_0578-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Hawkins-IMG_0578-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Hawkins-IMG_0578-2048x1366.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Vanessa, z\u00e1hadn\u00e1 umelky\u0148a &#8211; \u00fastredn\u00e1 postava va\u0161ej najnov\u0161ej knihy &#8211; pou\u017e\u00edvala vo svojich soch\u00e1ch r\u00f4zne v\u00a0pr\u00edrode n\u00e1jden\u00e9 predmety, \u00falomky \u010di kosti zvierat a pr\u00e1ve o\u00a0jednej z domnelo zvierac\u00edch\u00a0kost\u00ed sa roky po jej smrti zist\u00ed, \u017ee je v skuto\u010dnosti \u013eudsk\u00e1. Nerobia nie\u010do podobn\u00e9 i spisovatelia &#8211; \u017ee sa prehrab\u00e1vaj\u00fa v\u00a0nudnej realite a\u00a0h\u013eadaj\u00fa v nej \u00falomky \u013eudsk\u00fdch \u017eivotov, ktor\u00e9 by mohli zakomponova\u0165 do svojich pr\u00edbehov? \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee je to ve\u013emi dobr\u00fd popis. Aj ke\u010f napr\u00edklad v\u00a0Modrej hodinke nejde, samozrejme, o\u00a0skuto\u010dn\u00fd pr\u00edbeh, vznikal tak, ako ste povedali &#8211; zbieran\u00edm \u010driepkov, \u010di u\u017e zo \u017eivota \u013eud\u00ed, ktor\u00fdch som niekedy stretla, alebo z pr\u00edbehov, ktor\u00e9 som po\u010dula a \u010diasto\u010dne i\u00a0z\u00a0pr\u00edbehov o\u00a0skuto\u010dn\u00fdch umelcoch. Ke\u010f m\u00e1te tieto \u00falomky skuto\u010dnosti, vezmete ich a\u00a0za\u010dnete na nich stava\u0165, vytv\u00e1ra\u0165 z\u00a0nich nie\u010do nov\u00e9&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vanessa sa neboj\u00ed experimentova\u0165, chce sa vo svojej tvorbe pos\u00fava\u0165, sk\u00fa\u0161a\u0165 nov\u00e9 veci, a to i\u00a0za cenu ne\u00faspechu. Ako ve\u013emi sa v\u00a0jej postave odr\u00e1\u017eaj\u00fa pocity autorky svetov\u00e9ho bestselleru, ktorej sa neust\u00e1le p\u00fdtaj\u00fa, pre\u010do sa vo svojich \u010fal\u0161\u00edch rom\u00e1noch nesna\u017e\u00ed o\u00a0zopakovanie toho ist\u00e9ho pr\u00edbehov\u00e9ho vzorca? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ten Vanessin pocit a potreba umelecky sa pos\u00fava\u0165, to mi je ve\u013emi bl\u00edzke &#8211; rad\u0161ej budem sk\u00fa\u0161a\u0165 nov\u00e9 veci, ako by som mala opakova\u0165 nejak\u00fd vzorec, akoko\u013evek \u00faspe\u0161n\u00fd, hoci popravde neviem, \u010di tak\u00fd vzorec na \u00faspech v\u00f4bec existuje. T\u00fato ot\u00e1zku som v\u0161ak dostala mnohokr\u00e1t a\u00a0\u00e1no,\u00a0mohla som nap\u00edsa\u0165 Diev\u010da vo vlaku 2 alebo nie\u010do podobn\u00e9, no jednoducho som nechcela. Ke\u010f p\u00ed\u0161ete knihu, samozrejme chcete, aby \u010ditate\u013eov bavila, ale z\u00e1rove\u0148 potrebujete, aby bavila i\u00a0v\u00e1s. A\u00a0m\u0148a bav\u00ed sk\u00fama\u0165 r\u00f4zne mo\u017enosti, ako sa d\u00e1 pr\u00edbeh rozpr\u00e1va\u0165. Amb\u00edcia sk\u00fa\u0161a\u0165 nie\u010do nov\u00e9 je pre m\u0148a d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e1.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Paula-Hawkins-6235_SK_A_Dievca_vo_vlaku.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-12843\" src=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Paula-Hawkins-6235_SK_A_Dievca_vo_vlaku-189x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"189\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Paula-Hawkins-6235_SK_A_Dievca_vo_vlaku-189x300.jpg 189w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Paula-Hawkins-6235_SK_A_Dievca_vo_vlaku-646x1024.jpg 646w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Paula-Hawkins-6235_SK_A_Dievca_vo_vlaku.jpg 745w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 189px) 100vw, 189px\" \/><\/a>V\u00a0dobe, ke\u010f ste za\u010dali p\u00edsa\u0165 Diev\u010da vo vlaku, z\u00e1pasili ste s\u00a0finan\u010dn\u00fdmi probl\u00e9mami a\u00a0aby ste knihu mohli dokon\u010di\u0165, museli ste si po\u017ei\u010da\u0165 peniaze od otca. Mala finan\u010dn\u00e1 tiese\u0148 vplyv na to, ako p\u00ed\u0161ete? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Iste, bola som vtedy pod ve\u013ek\u00fdm finan\u010dn\u00fdm tlakom, ale nemysl\u00edm, \u017ee to ovplyvnilo m\u00f4j \u0161t\u00fdl. Ovplyvnilo ma to v\u00a0tom zmysle, \u017ee som si sadla a\u00a0p\u00edsala, ale nemalo to vplyv na to, ako som p\u00edsala. Nebolo to tak, \u017ee som si zaumienila nap\u00edsa\u0165 nie\u010do, \u010do bude ma\u0165 komer\u010dn\u00fd \u00faspech &#8211; ten sa nakoniec dostavil, ale to nebol m\u00f4j z\u00e1mer. Viem si v\u0161ak predstavi\u0165, \u017ee pre niektor\u00fdch spisovate\u013eov m\u00f4\u017ee by\u0165 tak\u00fdmto limituj\u00facim faktorom nedostatok \u010dasu, ktor\u00fd m\u00f4\u017ee ma\u0165 vplyv na ich \u0161t\u00fdl &#8211; napr\u00edklad, ke\u010f m\u00e1te deti a\u00a0m\u00f4\u017eete sa p\u00edsaniu venova\u0165 len hodinu denne. Ale ja som to tak nemala&#8230; \u010co ovplyvnilo m\u00f4j \u0161t\u00fdl, bola sk\u00f4r novin\u00e1r\u010dina. Pr\u00e1ca v novin\u00e1ch v\u00e1s nau\u010d\u00ed vyjadrova\u0165 sa \u00fasporne. A potom je tu, samozrejme, vplyv kn\u00edh, ktor\u00e9 som \u010d\u00edtala, filmov, ktor\u00e9 som videla&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Pr\u00edbeh Modrej hodinky sa odohr\u00e1va na ostrove pri pobre\u017e\u00ed \u0160k\u00f3tska, ktor\u00fd je z pevniny dostupn\u00fd iba dvan\u00e1s\u0165 hod\u00edn denne po\u010das odlivu. \u0160k\u00f3tsko bolo pre autorov detekt\u00edvok a\u00a0mysteri\u00f3znych pr\u00edbehov v\u017edy ob\u013e\u00faben\u00fdm miestom. \u010co na \u0148om zaujalo v\u00e1s?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u017de by sa pr\u00edbeh mohol odohr\u00e1va\u0165 na tomto mieste, to mi vlastne nenapadlo v\u00a0\u0160k\u00f3tsku, ale na dovolenke vo Franc\u00fazsku. Videla som tam dom na podobnom pr\u00edlivovom ostrove a\u00a0hovorila som si, \u017ee by to bolo perfektn\u00e9 miesto pre rom\u00e1n. Teraz tr\u00e1vim ve\u013ea \u010dasu v\u00a0\u0160k\u00f3tsku, m\u00e1m dom v\u00a0Edinburghu, no \u010dasto chodievam k\u00a0pobre\u017eiu, tie v\u00fdh\u013eady s\u00fa tam neuverite\u013en\u00e9, a ako ste povedali,\u00a0je to prosto ide\u00e1lne miesto pre detekt\u00edvky &#8211; v\u0161etka t\u00e1 temnota a\u00a0b\u00farky a\u00a0\u013eud\u00ed skoro nikde. Rozhodla som sa teda ten ostrov premiestni\u0165 tam&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vanessa si pochva\u013eovala, ako jej tvorbu oslobodil \u00fanik zo zovretia anglick\u00fdch platanov a\u00a0\u0161pinav\u00e9ho neba. C\u00edtite to tak i vy?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Milujem ve\u013ek\u00e9 obzory, nielen na pobre\u017e\u00ed \u0160k\u00f3tska, ale napr\u00edklad i p\u00fa\u0161\u0165 v\u00a0USA je \u00fa\u017easn\u00e1 &#8211; tie obrovsk\u00e9 priestory, ni\u010d\u00edm nelimitovan\u00e9, ste tam a vid\u00edte cel\u00fa oblohu, hviezdy&#8230; Je to pre m\u0148a ve\u013emi upokojuj\u00face a\u00a0in\u0161piruj\u00face.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vedeli by ste si predstavi\u0165 \u017ei\u0165 na takom mieste?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To je jedna z vec\u00ed, o\u00a0ktor\u00fdch si cel\u00fd \u017eivot hovor\u00edte, \u017ee by ste ich raz chceli urobi\u0165, od\u00eds\u0165 od v\u0161etk\u00e9ho, ma\u0165 pokoj od \u013eud\u00ed a\u00a0naplno sa ponori\u0165 do tvorby, ale z\u00e1rove\u0148 viete, \u017ee je to len tak\u00e1 fant\u00e1zia. Pravdepodobne by som po t\u00fd\u017edni mala tak\u00e9ho \u017eivota pln\u00e9 zuby.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Narodili ste sa a\u00a0vyrastali v\u00a0Zimbabwe. Mnoh\u00ed autori by v\u00e1m d\u00f4vern\u00fa znalos\u0165 tak\u00e9hoto exotick\u00e9ho prostredia z\u00e1videli. Neuva\u017eovali ste, \u017ee nap\u00ed\u0161ete rom\u00e1n z\u00a0tejto krajiny?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ale \u00e1no, ale u\u017e dlho tam ne\u017eijem, odi\u0161la som v\u00a0roku 1989 a mnoh\u00e9 sa tam za ten \u010das zmenilo. Z\u00e1rove\u0148,\u00a0p\u00edsanie o tejto krajine by z\u00a0r\u00f4znych d\u00f4vodov bolo akosi i viac osobn\u00e9, a\u00a0tomu moment\u00e1lne asi nie som pripraven\u00e1 \u010deli\u0165. Ale mo\u017eno jedn\u00e9ho d\u0148a, ktovie&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Paula-Hawkins-6240_Do_vody.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-12844\" src=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Paula-Hawkins-6240_Do_vody-186x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"186\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Paula-Hawkins-6240_Do_vody-186x300.jpg 186w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Paula-Hawkins-6240_Do_vody-634x1024.jpg 634w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Paula-Hawkins-6240_Do_vody-768x1241.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Paula-Hawkins-6240_Do_vody-951x1536.jpg 951w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/Interview-Paula-Hawkins-6240_Do_vody.jpg 1181w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 186px) 100vw, 186px\" \/><\/a>Pr\u00e1ca vizu\u00e1lnych umelcov a\u00a0pr\u00e1ca spisovate\u013eov sa v\u00a0mnohom prekr\u00fdva. Je nie\u010do, \u010do maliarom \u010di soch\u00e1rom z\u00e1vid\u00edte?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Z\u00e1vid\u00edm im to, \u017ee m\u00f4\u017eu by\u0165 ove\u013ea viac nejednozna\u010dn\u00ed. Zd\u00e1 sa mi, ale mo\u017eno sa m\u00fdlim, \u017ee od vizu\u00e1lnych umelcov sa neo\u010dak\u00e1va, \u017ee svoju pr\u00e1cu bud\u00fa vysvet\u013eova\u0165. Berie sa to tak, \u017ee ich dielo hovor\u00ed sam\u00e9 za seba. Vystav\u00ed sa a\u00a0je u\u017e na t\u00fdch, \u010do sa na\u0148 pr\u00eddu pozrie\u0165, aby si ho interpretovali. To maliarom \u010di soch\u00e1rom d\u00e1va ve\u013ea priestoru pre nejednozna\u010dnos\u0165, ktor\u00fa ako spisovate\u013e a\u017e tak ve\u013emi nem\u00e1te, od n\u00e1s sa o\u010dak\u00e1va, \u017ee budeme presn\u00ed. \u013dudia sa n\u00e1s neust\u00e1le p\u00fdtaj\u00fa: ako ste mysleli toto a\u00a0\u010do ste chceli poveda\u0165 tamt\u00fdm&#8230; a my\u00a0mus\u00edme vysvet\u013eova\u0165.\u00a0Ja v\u0161ak niekedy vysvet\u013eova\u0165 nechcem a\u00a0toto vizu\u00e1lnym umelcom z\u00e1vid\u00edm. Tie\u017e si ob\u010das mysl\u00edm, \u017ee vizu\u00e1lne umenie je akosi lep\u0161ie na vyjadrenie sa, \u017ee je v \u0148om viac vo\u013enosti, ale samozrejme, p\u00edsanie m\u00e1 tie\u017e svoje mo\u017enosti a\u00a0d\u00e1 sa n\u00edm vyjadri\u0165 mnoho.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Sk\u00fa\u0161ali ste niekedy in\u00e9 formy umenia? Napr\u00edklad ma\u013ebu?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Oh, to v\u00f4bec nie, nikdy som nemala tak\u00e9to sklony.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201eAko ka\u017ed\u00fd, kto sa zauj\u00edma o umenie, prechov\u00e1vam dva druhy spomienok: osobn\u00e9 a umeleck\u00e9. Ob\u010das sa navz\u00e1jom prel\u00ednaj\u00fa,\u201c vyzn\u00e1va sa v Modrej hodinke kur\u00e1tor Becker. Prel\u00ednaj\u00fa sa va\u0161e osobn\u00e9 a\u00a0umeleck\u00e9 spomienky? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ako die\u0165a som chodievala do domu priate\u013eov mojich rodi\u010dov,\u00a0na stene v\u00a0jed\u00e1lni tam visel print Z\u00e1hrady pozemsk\u00fdch rozko\u0161\u00ed od Hieronyma Boscha, pam\u00e4t\u00e1m si, ako intenz\u00edvne na m\u0148a p\u00f4sobil, dok\u00e1zala som na\u0148 hodiny a\u00a0hodiny h\u013eadie\u0165, fascinovan\u00e1 i\u00a0vydesen\u00e1 v\u0161etk\u00fdmi t\u00fdmi v\u00fdjavmi&#8230; Potom raz, u\u017e ako dospel\u00e1, som bola na v\u00fdlete v Madride a\u00a0s\u00a0priate\u013emi sme za\u0161li do Prada. Ako som sa tam prech\u00e1dzala pomedzi obrazy,\u00a0zrazu sa predo mnou objavila Z\u00e1hrada pozemsk\u00fdch rozko\u0161\u00ed, vyrazilo mi to dych. Bol to nesmierne intenz\u00edvny pocit, ktor\u00fd ma okam\u017eite preniesol do detstva. A\u00a0mysl\u00edm, \u017ee i\u00a0Becker v\u00a0tej pas\u00e1\u017ei hovor\u00ed o\u00a0podobnom strete s\u00a0umen\u00edm, ktor\u00fd sme v detstve za\u017eili asi mnoh\u00ed, mo\u017eno sme dan\u00e9mu dielu vtedy nedok\u00e1zali porozumie\u0165, ale to ni\u010d nemen\u00ed na tom, ako intenz\u00edvne v\u00a0n\u00e1s rezonovalo. A\u00a0ten pocit si nesieme cel\u00fd \u017eivot.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vanessu fascinuje more, hovor\u00ed, \u017ee je nezachytite\u013en\u00e9, no to jej nebr\u00e1ni, aby sa o\u00a0to st\u00e1le pok\u00fa\u0161ala. M\u00e1te i\u00a0vy tak\u00e9to \u201emore\u201c? Nie\u010do, \u010do sa opakovane vo svojej tvorbe sna\u017e\u00edte zachyti\u0165, ale akosi v\u00e1m to st\u00e1le unik\u00e1? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Asi ako v\u00e4\u010d\u0161ina spisovate\u013eov i ja m\u00e1m t\u00e9my, ku ktor\u00fdm sa st\u00e1le vraciam, ale nie nevyhnutne preto, \u017ee by som ich nevedela zachyti\u0165. Je to sk\u00f4r o tom, \u017ee zaka\u017ed\u00fdm, ke\u010f sa na dan\u00fa vec pozriem, objav\u00edm v nej nie\u010do, \u010do by som chcela presk\u00fama\u0165 viac do h\u013abky. Napr\u00edklad ma ve\u013emi zauj\u00edmaj\u00fa javy ako nespo\u013eahlivos\u0165 pam\u00e4te alebo postavenie \u017eien v\u00a0spolo\u010dnosti &#8211; predov\u0161etk\u00fdm \u017eien, ktor\u00e9 nezapadaj\u00fa do v\u0161eobecn\u00e9ho vzorca, nerobia to, \u010do sa im povie a\u00a0\u010do od nich spolo\u010dnos\u0165 o\u010dak\u00e1va. Zauj\u00edma ma, ako sa na tieto \u017eeny spolo\u010dnos\u0165 pozer\u00e1. A vlastne\u00a0&#8211; ako sa pozer\u00e1 na \u017eeny celkovo. Ako a\u00a0za \u010do ich odsudzuje a\u00a0ako sa i\u00a0my, \u017eeny odsudzujeme navz\u00e1jom. Z\u00e1rove\u0148 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee veci sa v\u00a0tomto smere ve\u013emi nelep\u0161ia, tak\u017ee pova\u017eujem za prirodzen\u00e9, \u017ee m\u00e1m potrebu neust\u00e1le sa k\u00a0nim vraca\u0165.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Skuto\u010dne m\u00e1te pocit, \u017ee nenastala zmena k\u00a0lep\u0161iemu?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Iste, mnoh\u00e9 sa zmenilo,\u00a0vidno to i na\u00a0pr\u00edbehu Vanessy &#8211; ona tvorila v\u00a090. rokoch a\u00a0to, ako sa v\u00a0tom obdob\u00ed o\u00a0nej hovorilo a\u00a0p\u00edsalo, je ve\u013emi odli\u0161n\u00e9 od toho, ako by sa o\u00a0podobnej umelkyni hovorilo v\u00a0m\u00e9di\u00e1ch a\u00a0v\u00a0spolo\u010dnosti dnes. Tak\u017ee \u00e1no, veci sa menia, ale nie v\u017edy nevyhnutne k\u00a0lep\u0161iemu, ve\u010f si vezmite, \u010do sa dnes deje na internete, v\u00a0ur\u010ditom zmysle je to v\u00a0niektor\u00fdch oblastiach e\u0161te hor\u0161ie&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>To ma priv\u00e1dza k\u00a0inej va\u0161ej hrdinke &#8211; Rachel z knihy Diev\u010da vo vlaku<em>,<\/em> ktor\u00e1 za\u017e\u00edva gaslighting. Tento pojem s\u00edce vznikol\u00a0u\u017e v\u00a050. rokoch, ale do povedomia verejnosti prenikol a\u017e v\u00a0druhej dek\u00e1de 21. storo\u010dia a\u00a0odvtedy vlastne naber\u00e1 na d\u00f4le\u017eitosti. Pre\u010do ste si vtedy zvolili pr\u00e1ve t\u00fato t\u00e9mu? Vyc\u00edtili ste trend v spolo\u010dnosti? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>M\u00e1m pocit, \u017ee tento pojem sa dnes azda aj trochu nadu\u017e\u00edva, \u010dasto i\u00a0v\u00a0nespr\u00e1vnom kontexte, napr\u00edklad \u013eudia n\u00edm \u010dasto myslia klamanie \u010di zav\u00e1dzanie, pritom v\u00a0gaslightingu ide o manipul\u00e1ciu postaven\u00fa na zneu\u017e\u00edvan\u00ed pochybnost\u00ed, ktor\u00e9 \u010dlovek m\u00e1 o\u00a0sebe samom, a\u00a0to je i\u00a0pr\u00edpad diev\u010da\u0165a vo vlaku. Ke\u010f som knihu p\u00edsala, v\u00f4bec som o tom neuva\u017eovala ako o\u00a0nejakom trende \u010di novej t\u00e9me, mysl\u00edm, \u017ee pojem gaslighting som v\u00a0texte ani nepou\u017eila. Prosto, Rachel mala probl\u00e9my s\u00a0alkoholom, a\u00a0preto bola n\u00e1chyln\u00e1 na tento druh manipul\u00e1cie, ke\u010f\u017ee kv\u00f4li pitiu u\u017e mala ve\u013ek\u00e9 pochybnosti o\u00a0sebe. Jej exman\u017eelovi sta\u010dilo trochu ju len popostr\u010di\u0165, urobi\u0165 t\u00fa jej neistotu e\u0161te v\u00e4\u010d\u0161ou. A\u00a0to je podstatou gaslightingu &#8211; zmanipulova\u0165 \u010dloveka tak, \u017ee prestane veri\u0165 sebe sam\u00e9mu, svojim pocitom a in\u0161tinktom. \u017den\u00e1m sa v\u0161ak \u010dasto st\u00e1va, \u017ee ich odmietaj\u00fa bra\u0165 v\u00e1\u017ene a\u00a0ozna\u010duj\u00fa ich za bl\u00e1zniv\u00e9 \u010di\u00a0hysterick\u00e9. A tak\u00e9to podkop\u00e1vaj\u00face prejavy spolo\u010dnosti vo\u010di \u017een\u00e1m stoj\u00ed za boomom okolo gaslightingu. St\u00e1va sa \u010dastej\u0161ie \u017een\u00e1m, ne\u017e mu\u017eom &#8211; \u017ee s\u00fa manipulovan\u00e9, aby pochybovali o\u00a0svojich n\u00e1zoroch a\u00a0presved\u010deniach. E\u0161te i\u00a0dnes ko\u013ekokr\u00e1t od politikov po\u010dujete, \u017ee \u017eeny by nemali zast\u00e1va\u0165 vysok\u00e9 verejn\u00e9 funkcie, lebo s\u00fa pr\u00edli\u0161 emocion\u00e1lne&#8230; to je predsa \u0161ialen\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dnes je na soci\u00e1lnych sie\u0165ach t\u00e9ma toxick\u00fdch vz\u0165ahov ve\u013emi popul\u00e1rna. Mysl\u00edte si, \u017ee sa tak\u00e9to veci dej\u00fa \u010dastej\u0161ie, alebo sa o nich len viac hovor\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Predov\u0161etk\u00fdm ich dok\u00e1\u017eeme lep\u0161ie rozozna\u0165. \u017de sa \u017eeny ozna\u010dovali za hysterky, to sa dialo v\u017edy, teraz si to \u013eudia viac v\u0161\u00edmaj\u00fa, pri\u010dom mlad\u00e9 \u017eeny s\u00fa si ove\u013ea viac vedom\u00e9, \u017ee naozaj ide o formu manipul\u00e1cie. Ke\u010f som mala dvadsa\u0165, ani som nevedela, \u017ee tak\u00fd koncept v\u00f4bec existuje.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Asi tomu napom\u00e1ha i\u00a0fakt, \u017ee sa t\u00e1to t\u00e9ma dost\u00e1va i\u00a0do popul\u00e1rnej literat\u00fary a\u00a0kult\u00fary&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ur\u010dite. N\u00e1silie a\u00a0zneu\u017e\u00edvanie nemusia ma\u0165 len fyzick\u00fa podobu, existuj\u00fa r\u00f4zne formy n\u00e1tlaku a\u00a0manipul\u00e1cie. Za mojich mlad\u00fdch \u010dias sa o\u00a0tak\u00fdch veciach nehovorilo, samozrejme, dialo sa to, ale vtedy sme o\u00a0tom tak neuva\u017eovali a\u00a0je dobre, \u017ee sa teraz o\u00a0tejto t\u00e9me ove\u013ea viac hovor\u00ed a\u00a0p\u00ed\u0161e.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vo va\u0161ej\u00a0knihe Pomal\u00fd ohe\u0148 sa spisovate\u013e Theo s\u0165a\u017euje, \u017ee ho tla\u010dia, aby do svojho rom\u00e1nu pridal romantick\u00fa l\u00edniu, lebo to hlavn\u00fa hrdinku \u201epo\u013eud\u0161t\u00ed\u201c. Stretli ste sa s\u00a0takouto po\u017eiadavkou i\u00a0vy?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mne zvykli vravieva\u0165, \u017ee by som postavy mala trochu zjemni\u0165, urobi\u0165 ich \u013e\u00fabivej\u0161ie, sympatickej\u0161ie. Ale mne to nikdy ne\u0161lo a\u00a0hlavne ma to nebavilo. Som presved\u010den\u00e1, \u017ee v\u0161etci si ob\u010das mysl\u00edme hrozn\u00e9 veci a keby sme si zrazu vedeli navz\u00e1jom \u010d\u00edta\u0165 my\u0161lienky, zostali by sme v\u00a0\u0161oku. Ja chcem p\u00edsa\u0165 pr\u00e1ve to, \u010do si \u013eudia skuto\u010dne myslia, chcem ich zachyti\u0165 verne, chcem, aby boli naozajstn\u00ed &#8211;\u00a0pr\u00e1ve t\u00e1 ozajstnos\u0165 ich po\u013eud\u0161\u0165uje. Z\u00e1rove\u0148 si v\u0161ak mysl\u00edm, \u017ee je d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e9 ma\u0165 postavy zasaden\u00e9 do ur\u010dit\u00fdch vz\u0165ahov. Napr\u00edklad spomenut\u00fd Theo je otravn\u00fd a ok\u00e1zal\u00fd, ale ke\u010f zist\u00edte, \u017ee miluje svoju \u017eenu, z\u00edskate pocit, \u017ee je to skuto\u010dn\u00fd \u010dlovek, nielen nejak\u00e1 fig\u00farka otravn\u00e9ho chlap\u00edka. Je to otravn\u00fd chlap\u00edk, ktor\u00fd z\u00e1rove\u0148 miluje svoju \u017eenu a\u00a0ktor\u00e9mu ch\u00fdba jeho die\u0165a, a\u00a0to mu dod\u00e1va text\u00faru,\u00a0pr\u00e1ve t\u00e1 je k\u013e\u00fa\u010dom k\u00a0tomu, aby p\u00f4sobil \u013eudsky.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vari v\u0161etky va\u0161e rom\u00e1ny s\u00fa prest\u00fapen\u00e9\u00a0my\u0161lienkou, \u017ee i\u00a0mali\u010dkosti vedia \u017eivot \u010dloveka vych\u00fdli\u0165 z\u00a0kurzu, \u017ee sta\u010d\u00ed m\u00e1lo a\u00a0stane sa z\u00a0n\u00e1s niekto, k\u00fdm by sme sa za norm\u00e1lnych okolnost\u00ed nikdy sta\u0165 nechceli&#8230; Pre\u010do sa u v\u00e1s t\u00e1to t\u00e9ma objavuje tak \u010dasto? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Chcem sa vyhn\u00fa\u0165 vykres\u013eovaniu \u013eud\u00ed ako zl\u00fdch. Ke\u010f pri mojich postav\u00e1ch (i\u00a0u\u00a0t\u00fdch, ktor\u00e9 sa na prv\u00fd poh\u013ead m\u00f4\u017eu javi\u0165 ako nepr\u00edjemn\u00e9 alebo priam odporn\u00e9) za\u010dnete odkr\u00fdva\u0165 ich vrchn\u00fa vrstvu, postupne si uvedom\u00edte, pre\u010do s\u00fa tak\u00e9, ak\u00e9 s\u00fa &#8211; nejde mi o\u00a0to, aby som ospravedlnila ich konanie, len ma fascinuje \u013eudsk\u00e9 spr\u00e1vanie a\u00a0chcem pochopi\u0165, pre\u010do postavy konaj\u00fa ist\u00fdm sp\u00f4sobom, ak\u00fd v\u00fdvoj je za t\u00fdm. Ono v\u00e1s to potom prin\u00fati i\u00a0zamyslie\u0165 sa nad \u013eu\u010fmi, ktor\u00fdch stret\u00e1vame v\u00a0re\u00e1lnom \u017eivote a m\u00e1me tendenciu robi\u0165 o nich r\u00fdchle \u00fasudky. Preto je dobr\u00e9 niekedy trochu poodst\u00fapi\u0165 od situ\u00e1cie a\u00a0uvedomi\u0165 si, \u017ee by neza\u0161kodilo by\u0165 trochu empatickej\u0161\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>S\u00a0ktorou z\u00a0post\u00e1v va\u0161ich kn\u00edh by ste sa chceli priateli\u0165 a\u00a0pre\u010do?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>M\u00e1m ve\u013emi rada Irene z\u00a0Pomal\u00e9ho oh\u0148a. Je to tak\u00e1 star\u0161ia pani, ve\u013emi pr\u00edjemn\u00e1 a\u00a0mysl\u00edm, \u017ee by sa s\u00a0\u0148ou dalo v\u00fdborne pokeca\u0165. A miluje knihy. Vanessa &#8211; s\u00a0\u0148ou by sa tie\u017e dalo zauj\u00edmavo konverzova\u0165, je to ve\u013emi zauj\u00edmav\u00e1 osoba, ale s\u00a0\u0148ou by to bolo asi trochu n\u00e1ro\u010dnej\u0161ie. A\u00a0potom Rachel z\u00a0Diev\u010da\u0165a vo vlaku &#8211; teraz, ke\u010f u\u017e nepije, by mohla by\u0165 tie\u017e fajn ako priate\u013eka.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Irene z\u00a0Pomal\u00e9ho oh\u0148a m\u00e1 80 rokov, ale na tento vek sa rozhodne nec\u00edti. \u201eNielen preto, lebo bez oh\u013eadu na vyvrtnut\u00fd \u010dlenok bola vrtk\u00e1, elegantn\u00e1 \u017eena, ale preto, lebo c\u00edti\u0165 sa na osemdesiat je nemo\u017en\u00e9. Nikto sa nec\u00edti ako osemdesiatnik. Ke\u010f sa nad t\u00fdm zamyslela, zdalo sa jej, \u017ee sa c\u00edti zhruba na tridsa\u0165p\u00e4\u0165. Nanajv\u00fd\u0161 na \u0161tyridsa\u0165. Pocitovo je to dobr\u00fd vek, \u010di nie? \u010clovek u\u017e vtedy vie, kto je. Nie je u\u017e prelietav\u00fd a neist\u00fd, ale e\u0161te nestihol zatvrdn\u00fa\u0165 a ustrn\u00fa\u0165 v nemenn\u00fdch n\u00e1zoroch.\u201c Na ak\u00fd vek by ste sa chceli c\u00edti\u0165 vy, ke\u010f budete ma\u0165 osemdesiat?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>F\u00faha, mysl\u00edm, \u017ee v\u00a0ur\u010ditom momente sa dostanete do bodu, ke\u010f o\u00a0sebe rozm\u00fd\u0161\u013eate ako o\u00a0mladom \u010dloveku, aj ke\u010f u\u017e n\u00edm nie ste &#8211; ako sa to deje teraz mne. A\u00a0mysl\u00edm, \u017ee \u0161tyridsa\u0165 je ve\u013emi fajn vek, na ktor\u00fd by sa \u010dlovek mohol c\u00edti\u0165 v\u00a0osemdesiatke, ale neviem&#8230; Teda d\u00fafam, \u017ee budem tak trochu ako Irene, je to ve\u013emi otvoren\u00e1 osoba, st\u00e1le sa zauj\u00edma o\u00a0svet, t\u00fa\u017ei nadv\u00e4zova\u0165 priate\u013estv\u00e1, cestova\u0165, rada by som si myslela, \u017ee v\u00a0jej veku budem tak\u00e1 ist\u00e1, ale ktovie, mo\u017eno budem ufrflan\u00e1 a\u00a0odporn\u00e1.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Mysl\u00edte si, \u017ee fikcia mus\u00ed by\u0165 uverite\u013enej\u0161ia ne\u017e realita?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ur\u010dite. Viete, ob\u010das ke\u010f \u010d\u00edtam noviny a\u00a0je tam nie\u010do o\u00a0nejakom zlo\u010dine, neraz mi napadne, \u017ee ak by som to pou\u017eila ako n\u00e1met pre knihu, v\u0161etci by len kr\u00fatili hlavami a\u00a0hovorili by mi, \u017ee som smie\u0161na. Neverili by ste, \u010do v\u0161etko sa \u013eu\u010fom prepe\u010die a\u00a0ak\u00e9 do o\u010d\u00ed bij\u00face veci si pol\u00edcia nev\u0161imne, no ak vy ako spisovate\u013e chcete, aby \u013eudia va\u0161im pr\u00edbehom verili, mus\u00edte vrahov urobi\u0165 inteligentn\u00fdch a pref\u00edkan\u00fdch, a\u00a0to si si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee v\u00a0realite nie je v\u017edy tak.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Paula Hawkins (52)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Narodila sa a\u00a0vyrastala v\u00a0Zimbabwe. V roku 1989 sa pres\u0165ahovala do Ve\u013ekej Brit\u00e1nie, moment\u00e1lne striedavo \u017eije v\u00a0Lond\u00fdne a\u00a0Edinburghu. K\u00fdm sa rozhodla, \u017ee za\u010dne p\u00edsa\u0165 knihy, p\u00e4tn\u00e1s\u0165 rokov pracovala ako novin\u00e1rka. Jej prv\u00fd thriller Diev\u010da vo vlaku (Slovart, 2015) sa kr\u00e1tko po vydan\u00ed stal bestsellerom, vy\u0161iel vo vy\u0161e 40 jazykoch a\u00a0bol pod\u013ea neho nakr\u00faten\u00fd \u00faspe\u0161n\u00fd rovnomenn\u00fd film s\u00a0britskou here\u010dkou Emily Blunt v\u00a0hlavnej \u00falohe. Jej druh\u00fd rom\u00e1n Do vody (Slovart, 2017) sa tie\u017e stal svetov\u00fdm bestsellerom, dvadsa\u0165 t\u00fd\u017ed\u0148ov sa udr\u017eal medzi desiatimi naj\u00faspe\u0161nej\u0161\u00edmi knihami The Sunday Times. V\u00a0sloven\u010dine vy\u0161iel i\u00a0jej rom\u00e1n Pomal\u00fd ohe\u0148 (Slovart, 2021) a\u00a0pr\u00e1ve teraz vych\u00e1dza jej novinka Modr\u00e1 hodinka (taktie\u017e v\u00a0Slovarte).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Veronika Sebechlebsk\u00e1<\/p>\n<p>foto Kate Neil<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>\u010cl\u00e1nok si pre\u010d\u00edtate v zimnom dvoj\u010d\u00edsle MIAU (2024)<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; Rok 2013 nebol pre Paulu Hawkins ve\u013emi dobr\u00fd, nedarilo sa jej v\u00a0osobnom ani v pracovnom \u017eivote a\u00a0uva\u017eovala o\u00a0konci svojej liter\u00e1rnej kari\u00e9ry. Mala v\u0161ak n\u00e1pad na pr\u00edbeh\u00a0o\u00a0alkoholi\u010dke, ktor\u00e1 z vlaku uvid\u00ed nie\u010do, \u010do nem\u00e1. A\u00a0tak zariskovala. 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