{"id":7061,"date":"2019-10-10T09:18:50","date_gmt":"2019-10-10T07:18:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/?p=7061"},"modified":"2019-10-10T09:18:50","modified_gmt":"2019-10-10T07:18:50","slug":"juraj-mravec-ml-stal-sa-zo-mna-introvert-ktorym-som-nikdy-nebol","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/juraj-mravec-ml-stal-sa-zo-mna-introvert-ktorym-som-nikdy-nebol\/","title":{"rendered":"Juraj Mravec ml. &#8211; Stal sa zo m\u0148a introvert, ktor\u00fdm som nikdy nebol&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Ke\u010f odch\u00e1dzal na svoju prv\u00fa cestu do Donbasu, s\u00a0priate\u013emi sa rozl\u00fa\u010dil takou \u017e\u00farkou, akoby sa u\u017e nikdy viac nemali vidie\u0165. Cestu do Iraku u\u017e nikto nekomentoval, bolo pochopite\u013en\u00e9, \u017ee Juraj Mravec doma neobsed\u00ed a\u00a0\u017ee ako dokumentarista mus\u00ed od\u00eds\u0165 tam, kde sa pr\u00e1ve &#8211; aj ke\u010f gu\u013ekami a\u00a0smr\u0165ou &#8211; menia dejiny. \u201eMame som povedal, \u017ee bude v\u00a0poriadku, ak tam umriem, nech sa o\u00a0m\u0148a neboj\u00ed. Bude to predsa pri pr\u00e1ci, ktor\u00fa milujem. Je mi bli\u017e\u0161ia predstava \u017eivota, ktor\u00fd sa m\u00f4\u017ee skon\u010di\u0165 hoci zajtra, ale d\u00e1va zmysel, ako keby som mal by\u0165 v\u00a0osemdesiatke frustrovan\u00fd.\u201c\u00a0 <\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-7064\" src=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec-768x1025.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec-767x1024.jpg 767w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec.jpg 984w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Fotografia, pohybliv\u00e9 obr\u00e1zky, r\u00e9\u017eia, dokumentaristika&#8230; ktor\u00fdm jazykom sa v\u00e1m vyjadruje najlep\u0161ie, ak m\u00e1 vypoveda\u0165 o\u00a0miestach, kde \u013eudia ne\u017eij\u00fa v\u00a0mieri?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>V\u00f4bec by som tieto oblasti nerozde\u013eoval, v\u0161etky s\u00fa navz\u00e1jom ve\u013emi \u00fazko sp\u00e4t\u00e9. V\u0161etko v\u0161ak vo\u013eakedy d\u00e1vno za\u010dalo fotografiou. T\u00e1 pre m\u0148a bola najd\u00f4le\u017eitej\u0161\u00edm m\u00e9diom a\u00a0od detstva mi imponovalo, ak\u00e1 je hne\u010f na \u201eprv\u00e9 pozretie\u201c z\u00e1bavn\u00e1. Deti si toti\u017e rady prezeraj\u00fa v\u0161elijak\u00e9 farebn\u00e9 obr\u00e1zky, dok\u00e1\u017eu s\u00a0nimi komunikova\u0165, no \u010dasom si mo\u017eno \u010dlovek, presne tak ako ja, uvedom\u00ed, \u017ee fotografia m\u00e1 v\u00a0sebe ohromn\u00fa silu a\u00a0na konfront\u00e1ciu s\u00a0jej obsahom n\u00e1m sta\u010d\u00ed zlomok sekundy.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>V\u00e1s to odjak\u017eiva \u0165ahalo k\u00a0dokument\u00e1rnej fotografii a\u00a0k\u00a0t\u00e9mam, ktor\u00e9 nie s\u00fa v\u00f4bec \u013eahk\u00e9&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>V\u017edy som chcel pracova\u0165 hlavne v\u00a0ter\u00e9ne a nav\u0161tevova\u0165 miesta, kam sa \u013eudia be\u017ene nedostan\u00fa, komunikova\u0165 so \u0161ir\u0161\u00edm publikom problematick\u00e9 t\u00e9my&#8230; \u017dia\u013e, v\u00a0s\u00fa\u010dasnosti je n\u00e1\u0161 fotografick\u00fd biznis takmer v\u00a0trosk\u00e1ch, rokmi sa toti\u017e radik\u00e1lne zmenil nielen medi\u00e1lny priestor, ale aj sp\u00f4sob na\u0161ej pr\u00e1ce t\u00fdm, \u017ee dnes u\u017e m\u00e1 ka\u017ed\u00fd \u010dlovek mobiln\u00fd telef\u00f3n, v\u0161etci maj\u00fa pr\u00edstup na internet a\u00a0trh je pln\u00fd agent\u00farnych fotografov, ktor\u00fdch charakterizuje viac kvantita ako kvalitn\u00e1 fotografick\u00e1 pr\u00e1ca. Postupne som teda vytriezvel a\u00a0pochopil, \u017ee tak\u00fdto \u017eivot fotografa \u017ei\u0165 nechcem. Objavoval som film, predov\u0161etk\u00fdm dokument, \u010domu nahr\u00e1va i\u00a0fakt, \u017ee som vy\u0161tudoval kameru na V\u0160MU a film je dnes pre m\u0148a \u00faplne prirodzenou formou komunik\u00e1cie.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Spom\u00ednate agent\u00farnych fotografov, vy ste dokumentarista na vo\u013enej nohe. V\u00a0\u010dom je rozdiel? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Na miestach, ktor\u00e9 s\u00fa pre m\u0148a zauj\u00edmav\u00e9, ost\u00e1vam dlh\u0161\u00ed \u010das a\u00a0sna\u017e\u00edm sa by\u0165 nielen inform\u00e1torom o\u00a0udalostiach, ktor\u00e9 sa na danom mieste odohr\u00e1vaj\u00fa, ale z\u00e1rove\u0148 c\u00edtim potrebu by\u0165 tam nejako u\u017eito\u010dn\u00fd. Ak som jedin\u00fdm slovensk\u00fdm publicistom v\u00a0Mosule po\u010das ve\u013ekej bitky proti Islamsk\u00e9mu \u0161t\u00e1tu, komunikujem aj so slovensk\u00fdmi printov\u00fdmi m\u00e9diami a\u00a0prispievam do nich report\u00e1\u017eami, ako novin\u00e1r sa v\u0161ak nec\u00edtim. Som dokumentarista. Ameri\u010dania pre to maj\u00fa pekn\u00fd v\u00fdraz: cinematographer.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ovplyvnil va\u0161e smerovanie nejako fakt, \u017ee obaja rodi\u010dia s\u00fa novin\u00e1ri? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ur\u010dite \u00e1no, aj ke\u010f istotne nie cielene. Prirodzene som vn\u00edmal, \u017ee existuje novin\u00e1r\u010dina ako druh pr\u00e1ce, \u017ee sa jej venuj\u00fa mama i\u00a0otec, ur\u010dite som i\u00a0v\u010faka tomu, \u017ee ma otec u\u017e ako mal\u00e9ho chlapca br\u00e1val so sebou na slu\u017eobky, inklinoval k\u00a0dokumentu, autentick\u00fdm situ\u00e1ci\u00e1m a\u00a0report\u00e1\u017enemu prostrediu. S\u00a0otcom som za\u017e\u00edval pr\u00edhody, ktor\u00fdmi som sa potom v\u00a0\u0161kole r\u00e1d chv\u00e1lil, vedel som, \u017ee ich nikto in\u00fd za\u017ei\u0165 nem\u00f4\u017ee.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jeden z\u00a0va\u0161ich skor\u0161\u00edch fotografick\u00fdch projektov v\u00e1s zaviedol do slovensk\u00fdch v\u00e4zn\u00edc&#8230; <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Sna\u017e\u00edm sa prin\u00e1\u0161a\u0165 inform\u00e1cie z\u00a0miest, kam sa be\u017en\u00fd \u010dlovek nedostane a\u00a0v\u00e4znica tak\u00fdm miestom je. Je aj ohromne \u0165a\u017ek\u00e9 dosta\u0165 sa dnu s\u00a0objekt\u00edvom, vybavovanie v\u0161etk\u00fdch potrebn\u00fdch povolen\u00ed mi trvalo cel\u00fd rok. A\u00a0pre\u010do pr\u00e1ve v\u00e4znica? Asi aj v\u010faka otcovi, ktor\u00fd dlhodobo pracuje na svojom kni\u017enom projekte Interview s\u00a0fotografiou, v\u010faka mno\u017estvu fotografick\u00fdch kn\u00edh, ktor\u00e9 sa u\u00a0n\u00e1s doma v\u017edy niekde pova\u013eovali, v\u010faka sl\u00e1vnym fotografom, ktor\u00fdch men\u00e1 som poznal odmala, mo\u017eno v\u010faka Jamesovi Nachtweyovi, ktor\u00fd m\u00e1 v\u00fdborne nafoten\u00fa v\u00e4znicu, mo\u017eno v\u010faka t\u00fa\u017ebe sa mu pribl\u00ed\u017ei\u0165&#8230; Nebol to prevratn\u00fd n\u00e1pad, mnoho \u013eud\u00ed chcelo foti\u0165 v\u00e4zenie, ale asi som mal \u0161\u0165astie, \u017ee som to po prvom odmietnut\u00ed nevzdal a\u00a0napokon som sa tam dostal.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-7068\" src=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec1-300x189.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"189\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec1-300x189.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec1-768x484.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec1.jpg 984w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Bolo zauj\u00edmavej\u0161ie samotn\u00e9 prostredie, alebo \u013eudia? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ove\u013ea viac ma pri\u0165ahovala vizu\u00e1lna str\u00e1nka tohto miesta a sp\u00f4sobu \u017eivota, ktor\u00fd tam \u013eudia ved\u00fa. S\u00a0v\u00e4z\u0148ami som sa o\u00a0ich osudoch vlastne ani nebavil. Zd\u00e1 sa mi to zbyto\u010dn\u00e9, predsa len s\u00fa pr\u00e1voplatne ods\u00faden\u00ed a\u00a0p\u00e1tra\u0165 po ich minulosti ma v\u00f4bec nel\u00e1kalo. Najsk\u00f4r som fotil skupinu B, kde to vyzer\u00e1 ako vo ve\u013ek\u00fdch kas\u00e1r\u0148ach a kde na ka\u017edej cele b\u00fdva na poschodov\u00fdch posteliach 38 v\u00e4z\u0148ov. Potom ma riadite\u013e v\u00e4znice po\u017eiadal, \u010di by som nenafotil dvoch mu\u017eov, ods\u00faden\u00fdch na do\u017eivotie. Chceli ma\u0165 svoj portr\u00e9t a\u00a0oni im v\u00a0tom nebr\u00e1nili. Toto stretnutie nakoniec vy\u00fastilo do krat\u0161ej listovej konverz\u00e1cie s\u00a0jedn\u00fdm z\u00a0v\u00e4z\u0148ov, nikdy som ale net\u00fa\u017eil spozna\u0165 d\u00f4vody, ktor\u00e9 ho do v\u00e4znice dostali.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Z v\u00e4zn\u00edc sa va\u0161e cesty sto\u010dili na Ukrajinu. Pre\u010do pr\u00e1ve tam?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nepri\u0161lo to zo d\u0148a na de\u0148. Neust\u00e1le ma fascinovala fotografia a\u00a0dokument, stali sa pre m\u0148a v\u0161etk\u00fdm a peniaze, \u010do som si popri \u0161kole zarobil, som v\u017edy investoval do cestovania. Po \u0161kole som mal v\u00a0pl\u00e1ne prejs\u0165 v\u0161etky krajiny b\u00fdval\u00e9ho Sovietskeho zv\u00e4zu a\u00a0v\u0161ade fotografova\u0165 a\u00a0nakr\u00faca\u0165, s\u00fa to zabudnut\u00e9 miesta, ktor\u00e9 skr\u00fdvaj\u00fa ve\u013ek\u00e9 mno\u017estvo zauj\u00edmav\u00fdch pr\u00edbehov. Nepre\u0161iel som v\u0161etky, no bol som v\u00a0mnoh\u00fdch a m\u00e1m v\u00a0portf\u00f3liu to\u013eko fotografi\u00ed, \u017ee by to pokojne vydalo na knihu alebo v\u00fdstavu&#8230; a do toho ma v\u00a0roku 2014 zastihli nepokoje v\u00a0Kyjeve.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nemali ste strach, \u010do napokon vz\u00edde z\u00a0ob\u010dianskeho povstania na Ukrajine?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Musel som tam \u00eds\u0165. C\u00edtil som, \u017ee je to tak\u00e1 v\u00fdznamn\u00e1 udalos\u0165, \u017ee ak tam nep\u00f4jdem a\u00a0nenafot\u00edm ulice Kyjeva, m\u00f4j projekt, na ktorom som dovtedy pracoval, v\u00f4bec nebude ma\u0165 zmysel. Nemal som na v\u00fdber. S\u00a0dvoma kamo\u0161mi sme nasadli do n\u00e1\u0161ho golfu, pre\u0161li sme hranice Ukrajiny a\u00a0do\u0161li a\u017e do Kyjeva. Mal som siln\u00fa t\u00fa\u017ebu v\u0161etko za\u017ei\u0165 a\u00a0zdokumentova\u0165 na vlastnej ko\u017ei, bolo to silnej\u0161ie ako strach prameniaci z\u00a0inform\u00e1ci\u00ed, \u017ee v\u00a0Kyjeve fotografom l\u00e1mu ruky. Obr\u00e1zky, ktor\u00e9 som vtedy na Ukrajine spravil, z\u00edskali ocenenie Czech Press Photo, a\u00a0to ma celkom povzbudilo.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ko\u013eko ste tam pobudli? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Dodnes ma mrz\u00ed, \u017ee len p\u00e1r dn\u00ed, no cel\u00fa cestu som si financoval z\u00a0vlastn\u00e9ho vrecka a\u00a0navy\u0161e neviem, \u010di som bol u\u017e pripraven\u00fd na stratu komfortu, ak\u00fa so sebou Kyjev tej doby prin\u00e1\u0161al. Stovky \u013eud\u00ed spali cel\u00e9 noci na zemi vo ve\u013ek\u00fdch vl\u00e1dnych budov\u00e1ch na n\u00e1mest\u00ed, kam za nimi prich\u00e1dzali \u010fal\u0161\u00ed \u013eudia s\u00a0chlebom, tepl\u00fdm bor\u0161\u010dom, a\u00a0to v\u0161etko v\u00a0m\u00ednus dvadsa\u0165stup\u0148ov\u00fdch mrazoch uprostred zimy. Mesiac po mojom odchode postrie\u013eali na N\u00e1mest\u00ed nez\u00e1vislosti (Majdan) viac ako sto civilistov v\u00a0prestrelke medzi snajpermi a\u00a0demon\u0161trantmi.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Na Ukrajinu ste sa ale vr\u00e1tili, a tak vznikol v\u00e1\u0161 prv\u00fd dokument\u00e1rny film Mir vam (Mier s vami).<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Na v\u00fdchodnej Ukrajine vypukla vojna a\u00a0ja som vedel, \u017ee p\u00f4jdem sp\u00e4\u0165. Bol som rozhodnut\u00fd, \u017ee sa s\u00e1m, len s\u00a0fotoapar\u00e1tom, vyberiem do Donbasu a\u00a0budem dokumentova\u0165, \u010do sa tam deje, otec mi v\u0161ak navrhol, \u017ee p\u00f4jde so mnou a\u00a0nakr\u00fati si tam report\u00e1\u017e do rel\u00e1cie Report\u00e9ri. Odjak\u017eiva m\u00e1me kamar\u00e1tsky vz\u0165ah, ni\u010d som proti tomu nenamietal a\u00a0ke\u010f som vybavil v\u0161etky povolenia, akredit\u00e1cie a\u00a0kontakty s\u00a0miestnymi \u013eu\u010fmi, vyrazili sme. Mal som naivn\u00fa predstavu, \u017ee budem foti\u0165 a\u00a0otcovi d\u00e1m do r\u00fak mal\u00fa kameru, len\u017ee on dovtedy s\u00a0kamerou nikdy nepracoval, \u010do znamenalo, \u017ee ako kameraman bol prakticky nepou\u017eite\u013en\u00fd. V\u0161etko teda ostalo na mne, nakr\u00facal som i\u00a0fotil s\u00fa\u010dasne a\u00a0po n\u00e1vrate domov n\u00e1s priatelia presved\u010dili, nech z\u00a0toho materi\u00e1lu urob\u00edme dokument\u00e1rny film.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ke\u010f teraz rozpr\u00e1vate o\u00a0tom, ako vznikal, znie to ako selanka oproti tomu, \u010do z\u00a0neho vy\u017earuje&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Jednoduch\u00e9 to nebolo. Nakoniec som oslovil producenta, n\u00e1pad na film sme predstavili na Audiovizu\u00e1lnom fonde ako projekt a\u00a0mali sme s\u00a0n\u00edm \u00faspech, z\u00edskali sme grant a\u00a0podporila n\u00e1s aj RTVS, no a\u00a0o\u00a0rok sme sa na Donbas vr\u00e1tili film dokr\u00fati\u0165. M\u00f4\u017ee sa zda\u0165, \u017ee film vznikol ako radik\u00e1lne rozhodnutie jedn\u00e9ho d\u0148a len tak vsta\u0165 a\u00a0\u00eds\u0165 do vojny, ale tak to nefunguje, lebo tak\u00e9to rozhodnutia m\u00f4\u017eu by\u0165 nebezpe\u010dn\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec4.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-7069\" src=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec4-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec4-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec4-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec4.jpg 984w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Vo filme vystupuje miestni obyvatelia, ktor\u00ed sa v\u00e1m zd\u00f4veruj\u00fa so svoj\u00edm utrpen\u00edm. Ako ich na takom mieste ako vojnou postihnut\u00e1 oblas\u0165 h\u013ead\u00e1te? Je to vec n\u00e1hody? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>V\u00a0podstate \u00e1no. Pr\u00e1ca dokumentaristu nespo\u010d\u00edva v\u00a0tom, \u017ee dok\u00e1\u017ee zapn\u00fa\u0165 kameru, ale \u017ee vie komunikova\u0165 s\u00a0\u013eu\u010fmi a\u00a0vie si ich z\u00edska\u0165. \u013dudia na Donbase nikdy neboli prek\u00e1\u017ekou, mali sme zaplaten\u00e9ho miestneho vodi\u010da, ktor\u00fd n\u00e1s vozil aj po separatistickej, aj po ukrajinskej \u010dasti a\u00a0ke\u010f sme sa \u013eu\u010fom slu\u0161ne predstavili, nikdy n\u00e1s neodmietli. Vo vojne sa toti\u017e deje jedna zauj\u00edmav\u00e1 vec: novin\u00e1ri a\u00a0film\u00e1ri s\u00fa pre miestnych mnohokr\u00e1t ako b\u00fat\u013eav\u00e9 v\u0155by, ktor\u00fdm sa chc\u00fa vy\u017ealova\u0165. Inak vlastne ani nemaj\u00fa komu, v\u0161etci susedia s\u00fa na tom presne rovnako a vl\u00e1da nikoho nepo\u010d\u00fava.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Potrebuj\u00fa sa vy\u017ealova\u0165 a\u00a0neraz pom\u00f4\u017ee aj oby\u010dajn\u00e9 \u013eudsk\u00e9 pochopenie&#8230; Vo filme obj\u00edmate pla\u010d\u00facu babi\u010dku, ktorej sa dokonca ospravedl\u0148ujete za va\u0161e \u0165a\u017ek\u00e9 ot\u00e1zky. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Podobn\u00e9 situ\u00e1cie vypl\u00fdvaj\u00fa zo z\u00fafalej situ\u00e1cie, ktor\u00e1 tam vl\u00e1dne. Z\u00a0toho regi\u00f3nu u\u0161la viac ako polovica obyvate\u013estva, vl\u00e1dne tam nesmierna chudoba a\u00a0v\u010faka zak\u00e1zan\u00fdm kazetov\u00fdm bomb\u00e1m pri\u0161li \u013eudia o\u00a0\u010dasti alebo o\u00a0cel\u00e9 domy. Mnoh\u00ed obyvatelia umreli, cel\u00e9 dediny sa vy\u013eudnili, mlad\u00ed s\u00a0de\u0165mi odi\u0161li a\u00a0ostali len star\u00ed a\u00a0nevl\u00e1dni. A\u00a0to cel\u00e9mu Donbasu dodalo ak\u00fdsi pochm\u00farny charakter. Nemysl\u00edm si, \u017ee by sa to v\u00a0bl\u00edzkej bud\u00facnosti mohlo zmeni\u0165 k\u00a0lep\u0161iemu.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>M\u00e1te po\u010das nakr\u00facania podobn\u00fdch sc\u00e9n u\u017e jasno, ak\u00e9 posolstvo by mal v\u00e1\u0161 dokument prinies\u0165?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ka\u017ed\u00e9 rozhodnutie nakr\u00fati\u0165 film mus\u00ed v\u00a0sebe nies\u0165 ist\u00fd v\u00fdznam. Pre m\u0148a je d\u00f4le\u017eit\u00e9 reflektova\u0165 najsilnej\u0161ie ot\u00e1zky rezonuj\u00face spolo\u010dnos\u0165ou, sna\u017e\u00edm sa zamera\u0165 na \u010dloveka v\u00a0istej jednoduchosti \u013eudsk\u00fdch t\u00fa\u017eob a\u00a0potrieb, pri\u010dom som mal st\u00e1le na mysli, aby bol film Mir vam poh\u013eadom nestrann\u00e9ho pozorovate\u013ea. Chcel som na explicitn\u00fdch osudoch \u013eud\u00ed uk\u00e1za\u0165, \u017ee vojna vznik\u00e1 vtedy, ke\u010f sa \u013eudia za\u010dn\u00fa nen\u00e1vidie\u0165 a\u00a0prestan\u00fa spolu komunikova\u0165.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>V\u00a0Iraku ste sa stali priamym svedkom prudk\u00fdch bojov o\u00a0Mosul. Mali Donbas a\u00a0Mosul nie\u010do spolo\u010dn\u00e9? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ako mi raz povedal jeden afgansk\u00fd vojnov\u00fd veter\u00e1n, vojna je v\u017edy o\u00a0tom istom: o\u00a0krvi, hovn\u00e1ch a\u00a0biede. Vojna je v\u0161ade rovnak\u00e1. Na oboch stran\u00e1ch s\u00fa m\u0155tvi, na oboch stran\u00e1ch je bezn\u00e1dej, \u013eudia utekaj\u00faci z\u00a0domova, pln\u00ed strachu a\u00a0bezn\u00e1deje. A\u00a0hoci je u\u017e v\u00a0Iraku mier a\u00a0Islamsk\u00fd \u0161t\u00e1t je ofici\u00e1lne porazen\u00fd, cel\u00fd regi\u00f3n je podm\u00ednovan\u00fd a\u00a0ka\u017ed\u00fa chv\u00ed\u013eu tam m\u00f4\u017ee nie\u010do vypukn\u00fa\u0165. St\u00e1le plat\u00ed, \u017ee \u013eudia v\u00a0Iraku nemaj\u00fa svoj pokoj. A\u00a0to ist\u00e9 pre\u017e\u00edvaj\u00fa na Donbase.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>V Mosule ste zbierali materi\u00e1l pre dokument\u00e1rny film Straten\u00fd domov. Boli ste svedkom bojov v\u00a0prvej l\u00ednii, \u010do zrejme neraz menilo va\u0161e pl\u00e1ny a\u00a0zasahovalo do konceptu. Mali ste pripraven\u00fd nejak\u00fd pevn\u00fd scen\u00e1r? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nakr\u00faca\u0165 rok nie\u010do tak\u00e9 autentick\u00e9 ako vojnov\u00e1 oper\u00e1cia v\u00a0Mosule znamen\u00e1 tot\u00e1lnu neistotu. Netu\u0161il som, \u010do sa stane, \u010di na druh\u00fd de\u0148 nepr\u00eddem o \u201ehlavn\u00fdch hrdinov\u201c, \u010di\u017ee fixn\u00fd scen\u00e1r sa pri takomto type filmu p\u00edsa\u0165 ned\u00e1. Ako autor sa v\u0161ak mus\u00edm dr\u017ea\u0165 istej idey, lebo, prizn\u00e1vam, \u010dlovek m\u00f4\u017ee osta\u0165 z\u00a0tohto prostredia ve\u013emi \u013eahko fascinovan\u00fd. Pri\u0165ahuje ho inakos\u0165, v\u0161etko je l\u00e1kav\u00e9 na kameru, v\u0161etko je mimoriadne pr\u00ed\u0165a\u017eliv\u00fd \u013eudsk\u00fd z\u00e1\u017eitok, a\u00a0tak sa pon\u00fakala cel\u00e1 paleta mo\u017enost\u00ed, ako vojnu s\u00a0Islamsk\u00fdm \u0161t\u00e1tom spracova\u0165. Musel som si ve\u013emi r\u00fdchlo uvedomi\u0165, ktor\u00e1 je t\u00e1 najspr\u00e1vnej\u0161ia, a\u00a0tej som sa pok\u00fasil po cel\u00fd \u010das dr\u017ea\u0165.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-7070\" src=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec2-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec2-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec2-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/juraj-mravec2.jpg 984w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Do Iraku ste cestovali s\u00a0neziskovou organiz\u00e1ciou Akad\u00e9mia urgentnej medic\u00edny&#8230; <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pred mojou prvou cestou do Iraku som o\u00a0nich v\u00f4bec netu\u0161il, vtedy som sa vydal do pohrani\u010dia S\u00fdrie a\u00a0Iraku, do oblasti Sinjar, kde ISIS sp\u00e1chal genoc\u00eddu na minorite Jez\u00eddov a\u00a0kde som sa rozhodol nakr\u00fati\u0165 prv\u00e9 materi\u00e1ly. V\u017edy, ke\u010f idem po prv\u00fdkr\u00e1t do takejto krajiny, vopred si zis\u0165ujem, \u010di tam nep\u00f4sobia nejak\u00ed Slov\u00e1ci a\u00a0ak \u00e1no, \u010do konkr\u00e9tne na t\u00fdchto miestach robia. M\u00e1m toti\u017e na pam\u00e4ti, \u017ee by mi mohli pom\u00f4c\u0165 s\u00a0kontaktmi, logistikou, at\u010f. Vtedy som sa spojil s\u00a0profesorom Vladim\u00edrom Kr\u010dm\u00e9rym z\u00a0Vysokej \u0161koly zdravotn\u00edctva a\u00a0soci\u00e1lnej pr\u00e1ce sv. Al\u017ebety a\u00a0od neho som z\u00edskal kontakt na Olivera Valentovi\u010da, p\u00f4sobiaceho na misii sv. Al\u017ebety v\u00a0Kurdistane. Stali sa z\u00a0n\u00e1s kamar\u00e1ti, pri\u010dom Oliver ma zasv\u00e4til do jeho pl\u00e1nu s\u00a0vlastnou mimovl\u00e1dnou organiz\u00e1ciou Akad\u00e9mia urgentnej medic\u00edny, ktor\u00fa zalo\u017eil s\u00a0priate\u013eom Matejom Karl\u00e1kom. Oliver mi po\u010das nieko\u013ek\u00fdch stretnut\u00ed v\u00a0Iraku vysvetlil, \u017ee sa ich organiz\u00e1cia venuje paramedic\u00edne a v\u00fdcviku kurdsk\u00fdch jednotiek pri z\u00e1chrane \u013eudsk\u00fdch \u017eivotov a\u00a0prvej pomoci v\u00a0extr\u00e9mnych bojov\u00fdch podmienkach. Teda kde aj samotn\u00fd z\u00e1chranca sa vystavuje obrovsk\u00e9mu riziku a\u00a0pracuje pod enormn\u00fdm stresom. Prem\u00fd\u0161\u013eali sme nad vz\u00e1jomnou spolupr\u00e1cou a\u00a0nad t\u00fdm, ako by sme si mohli navz\u00e1jom pom\u00f4c\u0165 a\u00a0ke\u010f\u017ee sa v\u00a0Iraku u\u017e dlh\u0161ie schy\u013eovalo k\u00a0ofenz\u00edve na Mosul, ba\u0161tu Islamsk\u00e9ho \u0161t\u00e1tu, boli sme st\u00e1le v\u00a0kontakte a\u00a0v\u00a0strehu. Ke\u010f to v\u00a0okt\u00f3bri 2016 v\u0161etko vypuklo a\u00a0na dvojmili\u00f3nov\u00e9 mesto sa tla\u010dila stotis\u00edcov\u00e1 arm\u00e1da, chalani z\u00a0Akad\u00e9mie sa tam vypravili a v\u010faka nim som tam napokon mohol \u00eds\u0165 aj ja.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kto s\u00fa teda paramedici? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Z\u00e1chran\u00e1ri p\u00f4sobiaci priamo v\u00a0ter\u00e9ne, kde ide \u010dasto o\u00a0sekundy, ktor\u00e9 rozhoduj\u00fa o\u00a0z\u00e1chrane alebo strate \u013eudsk\u00e9ho \u017eivota. Vo vojn\u00e1ch \u010dasto umieraj\u00fa \u013eudia na mas\u00edvne vykrv\u00e1canie, ke\u010f im \u0161rapnel odtrhne \u010das\u0165 tela alebo gu\u013eka pretne art\u00e9riu. A\u00a0nemocnice s\u00fa od bojov\u00fdch z\u00f3n vzdialen\u00e9 aj nieko\u013eko desiatok kilometrov. Zasiahnut\u00fd \u010dlovek v\u0161ak potrebuje pomoc do nieko\u013ek\u00fdch sek\u00fand. Chalani s\u00fa tam na to, aby zranen\u00e9ho stabilizovali a\u00a0aby pre\u017eil transport do nemocnice, kde sa ho ujm\u00fa lek\u00e1ri. Ke\u010f Oliver s\u00a0Matejom akad\u00e9miu zakladali, netu\u0161ili, \u017ee bud\u00fa robi\u0165 nie\u010do tak\u00e9to. Chceli sa venova\u0165 kurzom a\u00a0v\u00fdcviku jednotiek alebo be\u017en\u00fdch \u013eud\u00ed, dodnes robia kurzy prvej pomoci pre verejnos\u0165, ove\u013ea intenz\u00edvnej\u0161ie a\u00a0interakt\u00edvnej\u0161ie ako napr\u00edklad v\u00a0auto\u0161kole. Ke\u010f v\u0161ak za\u010dala oper\u00e1cia Mosul, z\u00edskali si z\u00e1chran\u00e1ri Akad\u00e9mie urgentnej medic\u00edny pozornos\u0165 cel\u00e9ho sveta a\u00a0dnes zdru\u017euj\u00fa dobrovo\u013en\u00edkov r\u00f4znych n\u00e1rodnost\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Gabina Weissov\u00e1<\/p>\n<p>foto Juraj Mravec ml.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Cel\u00fd rozhovor si pre\u010d\u00edtate v okt\u00f3brovom \u010d\u00edsle MIAU (2019)<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; Ke\u010f odch\u00e1dzal na svoju prv\u00fa cestu do Donbasu, s\u00a0priate\u013emi sa rozl\u00fa\u010dil takou \u017e\u00farkou, akoby sa u\u017e nikdy viac nemali vidie\u0165. Cestu do Iraku u\u017e nikto nekomentoval, bolo pochopite\u013en\u00e9, \u017ee Juraj Mravec doma neobsed\u00ed a\u00a0\u017ee ako dokumentarista mus\u00ed od\u00eds\u0165 tam, kde sa pr\u00e1ve &#8211; aj ke\u010f gu\u013ekami a\u00a0smr\u0165ou &#8211; menia dejiny. \u201eMame som povedal, \u017ee [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":7062,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,80],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7061","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-interview","category-oktober-2019"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7061","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7061"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7061\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7071,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7061\/revisions\/7071"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/7062"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7061"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7061"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7061"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}