{"id":7990,"date":"2020-07-16T12:20:54","date_gmt":"2020-07-16T10:20:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/?p=7990"},"modified":"2020-07-16T12:20:54","modified_gmt":"2020-07-16T10:20:54","slug":"alena-sabuchova-odjakziva-mam-rada-zvlastne-pribehy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/alena-sabuchova-odjakziva-mam-rada-zvlastne-pribehy\/","title":{"rendered":"Alena Sabuchov\u00e1 &#8211; Odjak\u017eiva m\u00e1m rada zvl\u00e1\u0161tne pr\u00edbehy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Alena Sabuchov\u00e1 hovor\u00ed, \u017ee p\u00edsanie je pre \u0148u dlhou cestou k rozhovoru. So sebou, aj s in\u00fdmi. K\u00fdm telev\u00edzny scen\u00e1r dok\u00e1\u017ee v pr\u00edpade potreby p\u00edsa\u0165 aj pod \u010dasov\u00fdm tlakom, pri liter\u00e1rnych dielach si rada dopraje pokoj. Aj preto sa do Podlasia &#8211; magick\u00e9ho kraja v po\u013esko-bieloruskom pohrani\u010d\u00ed pre in\u0161pir\u00e1ciu nev\u00e1hala opakovane vraca\u0165 dva roky a popritom sa nau\u010di\u0165 po po\u013esky. Z tajupln\u00e9ho prostredia pln\u00e9ho z\u00e1hadn\u00fdch mo\u010diarov, dedinskej pomalosti, hmly a najm\u00e4 \u0161ept\u00fach &#8211; \u017eien, ktor\u00e9 lie\u010dia \u0161epkan\u00edm, sa zrodil poetick\u00fd rom\u00e1n nominovan\u00fd na tohtoro\u010dn\u00fa cenu Anasoft litera. Scen\u00e1ristka a autorka, ktor\u00e1 za svoj debut Zadn\u00e9 izby z\u00edskala medziin\u00fdm aj Cenu Ivana Kraska, sa najlep\u0161ie c\u00edti vo v\u00edre r\u00f4znorod\u00fdch aktiv\u00edt. Ak pr\u00e1ve nep\u00ed\u0161e, vedie v\u00fdklady v SNG, pon\u00e1ra sa do kult\u00farnych z\u00e1\u017eitkov, cestuje, beh\u00e1, pracuje na svojej discipl\u00edne alebo prekra\u010duje svoje hranice.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/etc2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-7994\" src=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/etc2-200x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/etc2-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/etc2-768x1151.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/etc2-683x1024.jpg 683w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/etc2.jpg 984w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>1. Kto s\u00fa \u0161eptuchy a ako ste sa o nich dozvedeli?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u0160eptuchy s\u00fa \u017eeny (ojedinele n\u00e1jdeme aj mu\u017eov), ktor\u00e9 lie\u010dia, zakl\u00ednaj\u00fa, uzdravuj\u00fa, ale aj \u0161kodia pomocou \u0161epkania. Ritu\u00e1lne modlitby by mali preto odrieka\u0165 st\u00ed\u0161en\u00fdm hlasom, no neplat\u00ed to u\u017e v\u0161ade. Medzi miestnymi s\u00fa vn\u00edman\u00e9 ako vedmy &#8211; autority, \u013eudov\u00e9 lie\u010dite\u013eky s\u00a0nadprirodzen\u00fdmi schopnos\u0165ami. Dozvedela som sa o nich od mojej kamar\u00e1tky, jazykovedkyne a cestovate\u013eky Katky D\u017eunkovej. Fascinovala ma pr\u00e1ve ich existencia v 21. storo\u010d\u00ed, \u017ee tento fenom\u00e9n je st\u00e1le \u017eiv\u00fd. A tie\u017e m\u00e1m odjak\u017eiva rada zvl\u00e1\u0161tne pr\u00edbehy, ktor\u00e9 som v\u00a0tomto kraji intuit\u00edvne tu\u0161ila a napokon na\u0161la.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>2. Materi\u00e1l na knihu \u0160eptuchy ste zbierali dva roky, ve\u013ea ste si poctivo za\u017eili&#8230; <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Bola to kr\u00e1sna pr\u00e1ca a\u00a0m\u00f4j doteraz najmil\u0161\u00ed a\u00a0najsrdcovej\u0161\u00ed projekt, ktor\u00fd vo mne ve\u013ea zanechal. U\u017e len prech\u00e1dza\u0165 denne krajinou hmiel a\u00a0mo\u010diarov bol z\u00e1\u017eitok. Typick\u00fd de\u0148 vyzeral tak, \u017ee sme s\u00a0fotografom Robertom Tappertom vstali a vybrali sa za miestnymi. Bol to pre m\u0148a celkom nezn\u00e1my svet, musela som sa s\u00a0nimi nau\u010di\u0165 komunikova\u0165 tak, aby ma prijali medzi seba a\u00a0neb\u00e1li so mnou rozpr\u00e1va\u0165. Boli to mal\u00e9 v\u00ed\u0165azstv\u00e1 aj pri h\u013eadan\u00ed jednotliv\u00fdch \u0161eptuch \u2013 nie v\u017edy sa dali jednoducho n\u00e1js\u0165. A napokon, bol to trochu m\u00f4j \u00fatek do sveta, o ktorom som si nemyslela, \u017ee naozaj existuje v takejto podobe. C\u00edtila som sa tam ve\u013emi slobodne.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>3. \u010co v\u0161etko dok\u00e1\u017eu \u0161eptuchy \u201evylie\u010di\u0165\u201c?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Aby som sa k nim dostala bli\u017e\u0161ie, chodila som za nimi s be\u017en\u00fdmi staros\u0165ami ako boles\u0165 hlavy \u010di moja celo\u017eivotn\u00e1 an\u00e9mia. Ich klienti a\u00a0dom\u00e1ci by v\u00e1m v\u0161ak povedali, \u017ee vedia vylie\u010di\u0165 takmer v\u0161etko, veria im. Moje osobn\u00e9 dojmy z nich boli r\u00f4zne. Nie je v\u0161ak mojou \u00falohou ich s\u00fadi\u0165 alebo sa vyjadrova\u0165 k tomu, \u010di je ich moc skuto\u010dn\u00e1.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>4. Kde inde na svete e\u0161te \u017eij\u00fa \u017eeny &#8211; lie\u010dite\u013eky, zakl\u00edna\u010dky?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Viem o Ukrajine a Sib\u00edri, ale mo\u017eno by sme ich na\u0161li aj v in\u00fdch k\u00fatoch. Niekde, napr\u00edklad v povestnej \u017ditkovej tento fenom\u00e9n vymrel s\u00a0poslednou \u017eitkovskou bohy\u0148ou. Niektor\u00e9 sa modernej dobe prisp\u00f4sobili, in\u00e9 dodnes nemaj\u00fa ani telef\u00f3n. Je to individu\u00e1lne.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>5. <\/strong><strong>\u0160eptuchy s\u00fa aj pr\u00edbehom o dospievan\u00ed. Ak\u00e9 bolo to va\u0161e?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Dos\u0165 r\u00fdchle. Po z\u00e1kladnej \u0161kole, ktor\u00fa som z du\u0161e nezn\u00e1\u0161ala, pri\u0161lo vyk\u00fapenie &#8211; stredn\u00e1, kde som sa na\u0161la a bolo mi tam dobre. Dodnes s rados\u0165ou spom\u00ednam na gymn\u00e1zium a priate\u013estva, ktor\u00e9 sa tam utvorili. Toto obdobie ma ve\u013emi ovplyvnilo a asi aj formovalo. Mysl\u00edm si, \u017ee najviac dobr\u00fdch aj zl\u00fdch veci si do \u017eivota nesieme pr\u00e1ve odtia\u013e a dos\u0165 \u010dasto sa s nimi pasujeme e\u0161te dlho.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/etc.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-7998\" src=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/etc-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/etc-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/etc-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/etc.jpg 984w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>6. <\/strong><strong>Kniha zachyt\u00e1va nudu vidieka. Je v\u00e1m bl\u00edzka?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Vyr\u00e1stla som na dedine a ak sa na nie\u010do pravidelne te\u0161\u00edm, je to ta \u201enuda vidieka\u201c, ktor\u00e1 mi \u010dastokr\u00e1t ako relax padne vhod. Na dedine milujem element\u00e1rne veci &#8211; pr\u00edrodu a pomal\u0161ie tempo, spojenie s kore\u0148mi, so zemou, dom\u00e1cu zeleninu a ovocie. Oscilovanie medzi realitou a m\u00fdtom som si rovnako priniesla z detstva na vidieku, verila som, \u017ee medzi svetom jablon\u00ed v\u00a0z\u00e1hrad\u00e1ch a ne\u010falek\u00fdm cintor\u00ednom existuje br\u00e1na, ktor\u00e1 oboje sp\u00e1ja a ob\u010das sa m\u00f4\u017eeme navz\u00e1jom vidie\u0165 z\u00a0oboch str\u00e1n. Bola som vychov\u00e1van\u00e1 vo viere, z ktorej som si napokon zachovala r\u00f4zne asoci\u00e1cie, \u00factu k m\u0155tvym \u010di zvyky via\u017euce sa k jednotliv\u00fdm sviatkom.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>7. <\/strong><strong>Ak\u00fd je \u017eivot autorky na vo\u013enej nohe? Striedaj\u00fa sa u v\u00e1s obdobia hibern\u00e1cie s pr\u00edli\u0161nou aktivitou?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Vzh\u013eadom k tomu, \u017ee som od \u0161koly zatia\u013e v\u017edy participovala na nejak\u00fdch telev\u00edznych projektoch (Alena sa podp\u00edsala aj pod scen\u00e1re k seri\u00e1lom Prav\u00e1 tvar \u010di Novy \u017eivot, pozn. red.) plus p\u00f4sob\u00edm externe aj v Slovenskej n\u00e1rodnej gal\u00e9rii ako galerijna pedagogi\u010dka, ve\u013emi na tu hibern\u00e1ciu nem\u00e1m \u010das. V\u017edy toho rob\u00edm naraz viac, bav\u00ed ma kombinova\u0165 pracovne aktivity, pravda\u017ee, niekedy je to n\u00e1ro\u010dnej\u0161ie a mus\u00edm si starostlivo rozde\u013eova\u0165 \u010das. Ke\u010f ten \u010das m\u00e1m, idem na v\u00fdlet. Kamko\u013evek, hoci len na chatu do lesa, ak sa da. Ve\u013ea cestujem. A potom chod\u00edm ve\u013ea do kina, var\u00edm, stret\u00e1vam sa s \u013eu\u010fmi. Teraz som sa celkom na\u0161la v\u00a0pestovan\u00ed izbov\u00fdch aj balk\u00f3nov\u00fdch rastl\u00edn, tak uvid\u00edme, ko\u013eko so mnou pre\u017eij\u00fa.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>8. Spisovate\u013eka Emily Dickinson p\u00e4tn\u00e1s\u0165 rokov dobrovo\u013ene nevych\u00e1dzala von z bytu. Napriek tomu pre\u017e\u00edvala mimoriadne intenz\u00edvny \u017eivot, ktor\u00e9ho zlomky sa daj\u00fa pre\u010d\u00edta\u0165 v jej b\u00e1s\u0148ach&#8230; <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>V tejto karant\u00e9ne som zistila, \u017ee mi naozaj chyba len zop\u00e1r konkr\u00e9tnych \u013eud\u00ed, izol\u00e1cia mi a\u017e tak bytostne nevad\u00ed. Mam sk\u00f4r probl\u00e9m s t\u00fdm, \u017ee nem\u00f4\u017eem cestova\u0165, \u017ee sa mi ve\u013emi z\u00fa\u017eil \u017eivotn\u00fd priestor. To by mi ve\u013emi vadilo. Uvedomujem si (a d\u00fafam), \u017ee je to len do\u010dasne a nevyhnutne, mo\u017eno preto to nevn\u00edmam ako trag\u00e9diu. Dlhodobo tvori\u0165 pod\u013ea vzoru Emily Dickinson by som asi nezvl\u00e1dla. S\u00fa to pr\u00e1ve podnety a z\u00e1\u017eitky, ktor\u00e9 ma formuj\u00fa a umo\u017e\u0148uj\u00fa mi o\u00a0nich p\u00edsa\u0165 z istej perspekt\u00edvy.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>9. \u201eL\u00e1ska n\u00e1s pre\u017eije iba v pr\u00edpade, \u017ee tak nazveme korytna\u010dku,\u201c nap\u00edsali ste v jednej z poviedok&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Bol to jeden z\u00a0ironick\u00fdch v\u00fdrokov, ktor\u00fd trochu paroduje vzletne aforizmy o l\u00e1ske. Ale na druhej strane \u2013 \u010do u\u017e n\u00e1s ma pre\u017ei\u0165, ak nie l\u00e1ska? Mam ve\u013emi rada Jarmushov film Pre\u017eij\u00fa len milenci. Je to film o dvoch d\u00e1vno m\u0155tvych up\u00edroch &#8211; osudovej l\u00e1ske. Reflektuj\u00fa tento svet z\u00a0poh\u013eadu nieko\u013ek\u00fdch storo\u010d\u00ed, ktor\u00e9 na \u0148om tr\u00e1via a\u00a0vych\u00e1dza v\u00e1m z toho, \u017ee mno\u017estvo veci, ktor\u00e9 tu vzniklo, vzniklo najm\u00e4 v\u010faka l\u00e1ske. A aj tu zostan\u00fa v\u010faka nej. A s t\u00fdm sa stoto\u017e\u0148ujem.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>10. Nadir Dendoune kv\u00f4li svojej l\u00e1ske zdolal Mount Everest, absol\u00fatne bez tr\u00e9ningu a sk\u00fasenost\u00ed. \u010co bl\u00e1zniv\u00e9 ste kv\u00f4li l\u00e1ske \u010di pr\u00e1ci urobili vy?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Svoje hranice sk\u00famam cely \u017eivot. Som za ich prekra\u010dovanie, \u010dlovek sa tak o sebe ve\u013ea dozvie. Rada riskujem v r\u00e1mci zdrav\u00e9ho rozumu, vlastn\u00fdch schopnost\u00ed a pudu sebaz\u00e1chovy &#8211; nesk\u00e1\u010dem z \u00fatesu do mora, ke\u010f viem, \u017ee som ve\u013emi priemern\u00fd plavec. Pre m\u0148a bolo prekro\u010den\u00edm vlastn\u00fdch hran\u00edc aj to, \u017ee som si pri p\u00edsan\u00ed knihy na\u0161la cestu k\u00a0nezn\u00e1mym \u013eu\u010fom, ktor\u00fdch som videla prv\u00fdkr\u00e1t. \u017de som jednoducho pri\u0161la do nezn\u00e1meho kraja a povedala si, \u017ee viac mo\u017enosti, ako sa o \u0148om nie\u010do dozvedie\u0165, ma\u0165 nebudem. Tak som sa p\u00fdtala, nav\u0161tevovala. Bez pr\u00edpravy, bez predch\u00e1dzaj\u00facej dohody.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Zuzana Zimmermannov\u00e1<\/p>\n<p>foto Gabina Weissov\u00e1<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Druh\u00fa polovicu ot\u00e1zok a odpoved\u00ed si pre\u010d\u00edtate v letnom dvoj\u010d\u00edsle MIAU (2020)<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; Alena Sabuchov\u00e1 hovor\u00ed, \u017ee p\u00edsanie je pre \u0148u dlhou cestou k rozhovoru. So sebou, aj s in\u00fdmi. K\u00fdm telev\u00edzny scen\u00e1r dok\u00e1\u017ee v pr\u00edpade potreby p\u00edsa\u0165 aj pod \u010dasov\u00fdm tlakom, pri liter\u00e1rnych dielach si rada dopraje pokoj. Aj preto sa do Podlasia &#8211; magick\u00e9ho kraja v po\u013esko-bieloruskom pohrani\u010d\u00ed pre in\u0161pir\u00e1ciu nev\u00e1hala opakovane vraca\u0165 dva roky [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":7991,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[13,87],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7990","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-etc","category-leto-2020"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7990","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7990"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7990\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7999,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7990\/revisions\/7999"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/7991"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7990"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7990"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.miaumagazin.sk\/home\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7990"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}